Greyson & Taly Goody

Greyson Goody (00:00):
Fast-forward a few days, I'm with some of my delinquent friends in Ocean Beach, and there was a law school barbecue, and I'm like, "All right, well, let's go over there." She ended up being there and one of my good buddies, Jessie, was with me, I'm like, "Jessie, you got to pull wingman." So Jessie is like, "I got your back, no worries." Walked right up and rest is history.

Bob Simon (00:36):
Welcome to this episode of Bourbon of Proof, where we talk to people that have made it at law and life, we have the Goodys here today. We do it over a series of spirits, some high, some low. We have Japanese malts today, we have American ryes, we'll see what happens. But-

Mauro Fiore (00:50):
Let's stick to the American stuff, huh?

Bob Simon (00:52):
Oh, here we go. So...

Greyson Goody (00:53):
Here we go.

Bob Simon (00:53):
Well, here he is, Mauro Fiore is co-hosting this episode, still has highest viewed episode, much to my chagrin, but Mauro, thanks for coming.

Mauro Fiore (01:00):
Bob, when you asked me to come, you know I'm available 24/7 at your request.

Bob Simon (01:05):
What's the 97? Is that your favorite linebacker?

Mauro Fiore (01:07):
97's is a...

Bob Simon (01:08):
Poster on the wall since you were a kid?

Mauro Fiore (01:10):
An old band called Old 97's. I'm a big fan. I'm kind of like a deadhead version of the Old 97's fan. I've seen several hundred shows since I was 18 years old, and they're still around. 30 years they've been touring, and this year is 30th anniversary, so there's going to be a 30th anniversary tour. Don't miss it. Old 97's.

Bob Simon (01:27):
You're like the type of guy that would get a tattoo of the 97's.

Mauro Fiore (01:29):
I might have one.

Bob Simon (01:30):
You might have one.

Mauro Fiore (01:31):
I can show it to you, want to see?

Bob Simon (01:32):
Well, while he shows us his, okay, it was available.

Greyson Goody (01:34):
There it is.

Bob Simon (01:35):
I thought it was going to be the small of your back. Oh, time bomb. Okay. Well, we're here again, blessed to be on set at The Firm, which is a member's only whiskey bar run by Charles Lew, was the first ever guest. Charles is a good dude and we're stealing his whiskey, so we appreciate it. Well, we only stole one, it's only Macallan, because we have all the Goodys.

Taly Goody (01:52):
Yes.

Bob Simon (01:53):
So Greyson and Taly Goody, thank you guys for coming on. Both lawyers, they have their own firm together. Greyson and I are partners together at the Simon Law Group. Greyson and I have tried many cases together, but I've known you two since you was babies.

Greyson Goody (02:07):
It's been a long time. Yeah.

Taly Goody (02:08):
Yeah.

Greyson Goody (02:09):
And thanks for having us, guys, pleasure to be here.

Taly Goody (02:10):
Yeah. Thank you.

Bob Simon (02:10):
Let's break the ice.

Taly Goody (02:10):
All right.

Bob Simon (02:18):
We're going to go back, we've had this on the show before, but this is the Sonoma Rye that we did for Law-Di-Gras. We did the barrel select and we selected this barrel at your house.

Greyson Goody (02:27):
That we did.

Taly Goody (02:27):
Yes.

Greyson Goody (02:28):
That we did. And I think I still have the testers at the house, that I've been sort of sipping on here and there.

Taly Goody (02:32):
We have a lot of them.

Greyson Goody (02:33):
Yeah.

Bob Simon (02:33):
Because they would send me, when you, because this was in COVID, oh, you got to pull your glasses over, whenever they weren't, I mean, usually they come to you with a different one to sample, but it was like, they had to come by video, they would just send us all the samples.

Mauro Fiore (02:45):
So they would say, this is barrel number, whatever?

Bob Simon (02:47):
Yeah.

Mauro Fiore (02:48):
So you got to actually pick the barrel you wanted.

Bob Simon (02:51):
Pick the barrel we wanted. But remember this was...

Mauro Fiore (02:53):
Amazing.

Bob Simon (02:53):
So we had to proof it down, because it was originally like 130 Proof.

Taly Goody (02:57):
Oh, my gosh.

Mauro Fiore (02:57):
I like that.

Taly Goody (02:58):
Yeah. Real strong.

Mauro Fiore (02:58):
[inaudible 00:02:59].

Greyson Goody (03:00):
Yeah. That testing. We barely walked out of my house [inaudible 00:03:03].

Taly Goody (03:02):
I know. Yeah. I know.

Bob Simon (03:04):
They barely made it upstairs [inaudible 00:03:06] get home.

Mauro Fiore (03:06):
Is that right?

Greyson Goody (03:07):
Once we got there though.

Bob Simon (03:09):
We ended up playing Mario Kart at their house. Cheers.

Mauro Fiore (03:13):
Cheers you all.

Greyson Goody (03:13):
Cheers.

Taly Goody (03:13):
Cheers.

Bob Simon (03:13):
[inaudible 00:03:14] actually all true.

Mauro Fiore (03:20):
Somebody told me you have to smell the bourbon, and then you take a deep breath, and then you drink in a long drink, while you hold your breath, then you feel it go down. And that way you can really taste everything.

Bob Simon (03:34):
Are you a YouTube PhD, is that where you learned this?

Mauro Fiore (03:37):
Google.

Bob Simon (03:37):
Google. All right. I thought you were more of an Ask Jeeves type of guy [inaudible 00:03:40].

Mauro Fiore (03:42):
Ass G?

Taly Goody (03:42):
Does that still exist? Ask Jeeves?

Bob Simon (03:44):
I didn't say Ass G. I said Ask Jeeves.

Mauro Fiore (03:44):
Oh, I thought you said ass. Oh, I thought you said ass.

Taly Goody (03:45):
That is like so 1999.

Mauro Fiore (03:46):
Because definitely I'm an Ass G, for sure.

Bob Simon (03:48):
He's an Ass G. So both of you are practicing lawyers, but you guys met at law school.

Taly Goody (03:55):
My first day of law school.

Mauro Fiore (03:57):
Wow.

Bob Simon (03:57):
Was it your first day of law school, Greyson?

Greyson Goody (03:58):
No, actually I was a 2L, she was a 1L. It was her first day and...

Mauro Fiore (04:02):
Oh, did you offer tutoring?

Greyson Goody (04:04):
You know what, how did you know? How did you know?

Taly Goody (04:05):
[inaudible 00:04:07].

Mauro Fiore (04:07):
Because I did the same thing.

Greyson Goody (04:08):
Well, I told her I was getting good grades, and I offered...

Bob Simon (04:10):
[inaudible 00:04:11].

Greyson Goody (04:11):
... To give her plenty of tips here and there. Yeah.

Taly Goody (04:13):
Outlines.

Bob Simon (04:14):
I have some outlines. Yeah. Tips and outlines.

Greyson Goody (04:18):
That's it.

Mauro Fiore (04:19):
I offered to tutor the 1Ls too, but they didn't know I was on academic probation. How would they know that?

Bob Simon (04:26):
Well, they didn't have Google back then, or the web. So...

Mauro Fiore (04:29):
No, we [inaudible 00:04:30] by hand.

Bob Simon (04:32):
Oh, wow.

Taly Goody (04:32):
He was actually top of the class and I had no idea until our first date.

Bob Simon (04:36):
Wow. Really?

Taly Goody (04:36):
When someone else told me about it. We ran into your friends, and they were like, "You're with the top student in our class," I was like...

Mauro Fiore (04:43):
Wow.

Bob Simon (04:43):
Where did you...

Greyson Goody (04:44):
I paid them.

Bob Simon (04:44):
Where'd you go for your first date?

Taly Goody (04:47):
What was it? It was like that taco shop...

Bob Simon (04:49):
Taco Bell.

Greyson Goody (04:50):
Was it El Porto?

Mauro Fiore (04:51):
Nice. Nice.

Taly Goody (04:52):
Not Taco Bell. No.

Greyson Goody (04:53):
It was at Taco...

Taly Goody (04:54):
Oh, El Porto.

Greyson Goody (04:54):
El Porto.

Taly Goody (04:59):
There's El Porto on Fourth Street in Downtown. I don't know if that still exists.

Mauro Fiore (04:59):
In Gaslamp?

Taly Goody (04:59):
Yeah. In Gaslamp.

Mauro Fiore (04:59):
I remember that place.

Bob Simon (04:59):
You guys went to Thomas Jefferson in San Diego.

Mauro Fiore (05:02):
Been there.

Bob Simon (05:04):
Oh, so the three of you have something in common, unaccredited law schools.

Taly Goody (05:05):
Well, it was accredited...

Greyson Goody (05:08):
Wow.

Taly Goody (05:08):
... While we were there.

Mauro Fiore (05:08):
Wait a minute. No, no, no, Bob, Bob...

Taly Goody (05:08):
It was accredited.

Mauro Fiore (05:11):
... Don't insult these people. That was an ABA school at that time, right?

Taly Goody (05:14):
Yeah. It was.

Greyson Goody (05:15):
At that time. Yeah.

Mauro Fiore (05:15):
So...

Greyson Goody (05:15):
[inaudible 00:05:16].

Taly Goody (05:15):
In a beautiful building.

Bob Simon (05:15):
Half of our...

Mauro Fiore (05:16):
So somebody asks you, did you graduate from ABA school? Yes. Right.

Taly Goody (05:18):
We did.

Greyson Goody (05:18):
Yes.

Mauro Fiore (05:19):
Even though the school is no longer accredited.

Bob Simon (05:20):
So half of our firm went to Thomas Jefferson, the best lawyers that we know.

Mauro Fiore (05:23):
When it was accredited.

Greyson Goody (05:23):
When it was accredited.

Taly Goody (05:24):
When it was accredited. And then it lost it, like couple years after we graduated.

Mauro Fiore (05:28):
Now, I myself went to a school that has never even sniffed an accreditation, University of West LA, UWLA, who our distinguished alumni is Gary Dordick.

Bob Simon (05:38):
I think they have a big painting of him [inaudible 00:05:40] a statue.

Mauro Fiore (05:41):
And little known fact, Gary's father is a painter.

Bob Simon (05:44):
Oh, wow.

Mauro Fiore (05:45):
And a portrait painter, Gary's dad. And he painted a portrait of Gary that hangs in the library at the college.

Greyson Goody (05:51):
Oh, wow.

Taly Goody (05:51):
What?

Mauro Fiore (05:52):
So Gary is kind of like our Clarence Darrow, you know?

Greyson Goody (05:54):
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Two distinguished alumni.

Bob Simon (05:57):
So when you first saw Greyson, just describe for our viewers what you saw? Because we see this Adonis here today, but what was it like in 2000, what was it, 2009? 10?

Taly Goody (06:06):
It was 2011.

Bob Simon (06:06):
'11. Yeah.

Taly Goody (06:08):
Well, I was just getting off the elevator to pick up my financial aid check, I was like, "Yes, getting my money." And then I was going back down into the elevator, and then I saw him, and we locked eyes, and I was like...

Bob Simon (06:22):
Wow.

Taly Goody (06:22):
Called my best friend after, I was like, "I just saw the hottest guy at my law school," it's what I though about him.

Bob Simon (06:25):
Was it my little brother? Was it my little brother?

Taly Goody (06:26):
No.

Bob Simon (06:26):
Because he was in your class. I'm making sure it wasn't my little brother.

Greyson Goody (06:31):
He was. He was. Yeah.

Mauro Fiore (06:31):
When she said, she called her girlfriend.

Bob Simon (06:33):
No, [inaudible 00:06:35].

Mauro Fiore (06:36):
Wow. Bob, I mean, that's...

Bob Simon (06:38):
Was a good job. Thanks for uncovering it.

Mauro Fiore (06:40):
You know Brandon, no, what's that?

Bob Simon (06:41):
It's Brandon.

Mauro Fiore (06:42):
Brad. Brandon or Brad?

Bob Simon (06:42):
Brandon.

Greyson Goody (06:43):
Brandon.

Mauro Fiore (06:43):
Brandon. He is not girly.

Bob Simon (06:47):
He's not girly. Well, sometimes, you know?

Greyson Goody (06:50):
Great beard.

Mauro Fiore (06:51):
It depends if his wife is disciplining him.

Bob Simon (06:53):
Oh, she disciplines the shit out of Brandon, we all know this. So you see him. But Greyson, did he have long hair [inaudible 00:07:03].

Taly Goody (07:02):
He didn't.

Bob Simon (07:02):
He did. No, you cut it.

Taly Goody (07:03):
And that's when he told me, he was like, "If you had met me when I had long hair, you would not have thought I was hot." I was like, "No, no, I would have, but he doesn't believe it."

Greyson Goody (07:11):
No, I don't think so. No, I...

Mauro Fiore (07:13):
I think you're okay with the long hair or short, I think you're all right.

Bob Simon (07:16):
No, he [inaudible 00:07:17]...

Greyson Goody (07:17):
Thank you, that's very kind of you.

Bob Simon (07:17):
... He looked like Jesus.

Greyson Goody (07:19):
Yeah. And I had a...

Bob Simon (07:20):
Like the prophet.

Greyson Goody (07:21):
... Beard too. A beard and long greasy hair.

Mauro Fiore (07:22):
Wow.

Greyson Goody (07:22):
Long greasy hair.

Mauro Fiore (07:23):
Did you have a cargo van too?

Greyson Goody (07:27):
Not telling you. I'm not telling you. No.

Mauro Fiore (07:31):
Van with no windows, because that'd be the trifecta.

Greyson Goody (07:32):
I know, right? Nice and creepy. No, it was actually only like a month or so before I saw her that I cut my hair. So I was lucky. I don't think she would have liked me. Yeah.

Bob Simon (07:42):
I think it would have been fine.

Mauro Fiore (07:42):
Tell us about her, enough about you.

Bob Simon (07:44):
Yeah.

Taly Goody (07:44):
Yeah. What'd you think of me?

Greyson Goody (07:45):
Yeah. Well, no, same thing. I mean, it was one of those moments. I remember, I was in the elevator talking to a friend and the elevator opened, and I looked across the way and saw her just as the elevator was closing. So we didn't even talk that first day. Fast-forward a few days, I'm with some of my delinquent friends in Ocean Beach and there was a law school barbecue, and I'm like, "All right, well, let's go over there." She ended up being there and one of my good buddies, Jessie, was with me, I'm like, "Jessie, you got to pull wingman." She was with your friend, Natalia.

Taly Goody (08:16):
Natalia.

Greyson Goody (08:17):
So Jessie is like, "I got your back, no worries." Walked right up and rest is history.

Bob Simon (08:23):
Wow. Damn. Lockdown.

Mauro Fiore (08:24):
Ocean Beach. You know a buddy of mine from, I'm a lot older than you guys, buddy of mine from high school owned a bar down there called Moondoggies.

Taly Goody (08:29):
Oh, Moondoggies.

Greyson Goody (08:30):
I love Moondoggies.

Taly Goody (08:31):
Yeah. We've been there.

Mauro Fiore (08:33):
He owned Moondoggies for like 20 years. Matt Weaver, he's watching, love you Matt. But yeah, he owned that place for years, and then he got married and his wife made him sold sell it. Can you imagine, why? The place is wild.

Greyson Goody (08:41):
It was wild.

Taly Goody (08:42):
Moondoggies.

Greyson Goody (08:42):
We had a lot of good nights at Moondoggies.

Mauro Fiore (08:43):
Hell of a bar, right?

Greyson Goody (08:44):
Yeah. Great bar.

Bob Simon (08:45):
Was it a bar and grill?

Mauro Fiore (08:47):
I think they had a grill, but [inaudible 00:08:49].

Bob Simon (08:49):
Okay. [inaudible 00:08:49] and grills. A little substance here and there.

Greyson Goody (08:52):
A lot of bar food. Pretzels, don't worry, they were pretzels.

Bob Simon (08:55):
Thank Jesus. So...

Mauro Fiore (08:57):
And drugs. [inaudible 00:08:58].

Greyson Goody (08:59):
Plenty of drugs.

Mauro Fiore (09:00):
Plenty of drugs.

Bob Simon (09:01):
Here we go. I mean, Hollywood Hills comes full throttle...

Mauro Fiore (09:04):
Yes.

Bob Simon (09:04):
... Right out the gate. So you grew up in, well, let's pull the next bottle, let's drink this, because we're going to start going background here. We went to law school, let's take it back, let's dial it back.

Mauro Fiore (09:20):
I read the call sheet, where it says the talent that's going to be present, this is a professional [inaudible 00:09:28].

Bob Simon (09:27):
Mario used to have different call sheet for talent when he'd go to like after midnight type places.

Mauro Fiore (09:31):
Yeah. Well, this is a, Bob, you can't tell them about these things. You told me to keep it on the up and up here. We don't want to talk about my...

Bob Simon (09:38):
That's how they do things...

Mauro Fiore (09:39):
My sordid past.

Bob Simon (09:40):
... At the burger joint, the Shake Shack, they have the talent burgers, right?

Mauro Fiore (09:43):
So the talent I saw in this one was going to be the Goodys, and I said, "You know what, I'm going to bring this bottle." I just opened this, this is a special bottle to me. This is Yellowstone Bourbon, this is in Kentucky, the Limestone Distillery. So this is Yellowstone Bourbon. It's been around a long time, the Yellowstone Bourbon. But this particular bottle is a, it was 150th anniversary of the Yellowstone National Park, which is in Montana, Wyoming, and Idaho. And I happened to be there last summer, I took my kids, because I'm kind of like a Disneyland dad kind of dude, I take them places. I'm like a Griswold guy, I'll go to see the world's largest tumbleweed and all that, I do all that shit. So I took him to see the...

Bob Simon (10:27):
Biggest rubber band.

Mauro Fiore (10:30):
Yeah. I took my kids to go see Old Faithful. And on the way there, from LA, you fly to Bozeman, you drive through Big Sky, and you go into Yellowstone, in West Yellowstone entrance. And Big Sky, my buddy Nick Rowley, lives in Big Sky, visit Nick in his...

Bob Simon (10:48):
Compound.

Mauro Fiore (10:48):
I mean, you can't even call it an estate. He's got a small part of the State of Montana that he owns.

Bob Simon (10:53):
It's a big state.

Mauro Fiore (10:54):
Yeah. It's a big state. He owns part of the state. And then you keep going, and you go there. So this is a bottle you can only buy in the park. This is the Grand Prismatic Spring Edition. If you've ever been to Yellowstone, you've been to Grand, hopefully, you checked out the Grand Prismatic. You ever been there, Bob?

Bob Simon (11:11):
I've never been, but I need to.

Taly Goody (11:12):
It's pretty cool.

Mauro Fiore (11:13):
The Grand Prismatic...

Greyson Goody (11:14):
Got to go.

Mauro Fiore (11:14):
... Is pretty awesome.

Bob Simon (11:14):
I'm going to go glamping there.

Greyson Goody (11:15):
Got to go.

Mauro Fiore (11:16):
Well, I stayed at...

Taly Goody (11:16):
Do they even have...

Greyson Goody (11:17):
You can do that.

Taly Goody (11:18):
... Glamping there?

Mauro Fiore (11:18):
You don't even need the glamp, dude. We stayed at the Old Faithful Inn, it's like a nice hotel, it's beautiful. And it's funny, we went to the Old Faithful Inn, and I asked the guy, the geyser is right outside the door, right, like 100 yards from the front door, and I said, "Well, when is the next eruption?" And he says, "Well, it's supposed to be in 12 minutes, but we're not sure." I said, "So you're not sure. This shit has been fucking erupting for thousands of years, every 12 minutes for 2,000 years, but you're not sure." He is like, "Well, I can't guarantee it." I said, "I wasn't looking for a guarantee, dude. When is this shit going to go off so I can take my kid out there?" He said, "Well, we think in 12 minutes." He didn't want give me too much expectation, even though it goes off every 12 minutes for thousands of years.

(12:04):
So I purchased that in the park and I brought it for you guys. It's a very special bottle, only buy it in the park. This is Yellowstone. And it's a little hot too, oh, not really, 95 Proof [inaudible 00:12:15].

Bob Simon (12:15):
Yeah. Weak.

Mauro Fiore (12:15):
Very weak.

Bob Simon (12:16):
It's like a breakfast bourbon. So for people who are watching and listening, don't know, Greyson...

Mauro Fiore (12:21):
Bob, can you take that out? I don't have a lot of strength in these [inaudible 00:12:24].

Bob Simon (12:24):
Oh, here we go.

Greyson Goody (12:25):
Carpal tunnel?

Mauro Fiore (12:26):
Yeah. Yeah.

Bob Simon (12:27):
Years of abuse.

Mauro Fiore (12:27):
Years of abuse.

Bob Simon (12:29):
So Greyson grew up in...

Mauro Fiore (12:32):
Wyoming.

Bob Simon (12:33):
Wyoming.

Greyson Goody (12:34):
I grew up in Wyoming. And I...

Bob Simon (12:35):
And went to school in Montana.

Greyson Goody (12:36):
I've probably been to Yellowstone 200 times and I've never tried this whiskey.

Bob Simon (12:42):
Well, now you're going to try [inaudible 00:12:43].

Greyson Goody (12:43):
So I'm really excited to try this.

Mauro Fiore (12:44):
Did you go to Montana State?

Greyson Goody (12:46):
Yeah. I went to Montana State in Bozeman, actually.

Mauro Fiore (12:48):
Wow.

Greyson Goody (12:49):
And grew up in Jackson Hole. So that whole area, literally from South Yellowstone National Park all the way to the north was like, that was our stomping grounds.

Mauro Fiore (12:58):
It was funny, I spent exactly one night in my life in Bozeman, but it was a Saturday night, and that night was Montana versus Montana State football Game. I was with my wife and my kids, and my wife's like, "Man, it's fucking crazy down here in Bozeman." I was like, "I think there must be something going on." It's a crazy game, right?

Greyson Goody (13:17):
Was it this year?

Mauro Fiore (13:19):
Yeah. This year's game.

Taly Goody (13:19):
Oh, we were there too.

Greyson Goody (13:19):
Because we were there too.

Mauro Fiore (13:19):
I was there.

Greyson Goody (13:22):
We went to the game.

Bob Simon (13:22):
He was wearing the moose head. He had the [inaudible 00:13:28].

Mauro Fiore (13:27):
I was there.

Taly Goody (13:27):
You went to the game?

Greyson Goody (13:27):
You went to the game?

Mauro Fiore (13:27):
No, I didn't go to the game, I just...

Taly Goody (13:28):
Oh, you were just in Bozeman.

Mauro Fiore (13:29):
I stayed at some, and the thing is, if you've never been to Bozeman, man, I mean, I stayed at some fancy fucking hotel. I mean, the place...

Bob Simon (13:35):
I've been to Bozeman. It's like...

Mauro Fiore (13:35):
Bozeman's no bullshit.

Bob Simon (13:35):
It's like old town.

Mauro Fiore (13:38):
It's like Aspen. Bozeman is like Aspen, man, it's no bullshit.

Greyson Goody (13:40):
Now it is.

Mauro Fiore (13:41):
I stayed at a fancy hotel. I went to a dim sum place in fucking Bozeman. I mean, Bozeman's different, man, it's no cowboy town, it's a high-end town.

Greyson Goody (13:52):
It's changed a lot since I was at school there though.

Bob Simon (13:54):
I wonder what you think about this.

Greyson Goody (13:55):
It's changed a ton.

Bob Simon (13:58):
For those who are...

Greyson Goody (13:58):
It smells good. I mean...

Bob Simon (14:00):
Tally like the brown liquor more than any of us. You started on the stuff when you were two or three years old.

Taly Goody (14:04):
I did.

Bob Simon (14:04):
We'll get into it.

Taly Goody (14:05):
Exactly. Neat always. No ice cubes.

Mauro Fiore (14:06):
Oh, it's really nice. Very, very, sweet.

Greyson Goody (14:08):
Oh, that's very tasty. That's very smooth.

Bob Simon (14:10):
Wow. Again, it's only 95 Proof. So...

Taly Goody (14:13):
Oh, that's really good.

Mauro Fiore (14:13):
It's an easy drink.

Taly Goody (14:13):
Wow.

Bob Simon (14:13):
It's a little nutty.

Mauro Fiore (14:13):
It's an easy drinker.

Taly Goody (14:15):
Wait, is this 95?

Mauro Fiore (14:15):
Yep.

Bob Simon (14:15):
Yeah.

Mauro Fiore (14:15):
Easy drinker

Greyson Goody (14:16):
But Mauro, that game is called The Big Brawl, between Montana and Montana State. It's been going on for something like 121 years. And this year, what was it? It was negative 15 when we woke up in the morning.

Taly Goody (14:32):
More than that, like negative 20.

Greyson Goody (14:34):
And these Montana boys, they're going out there, they got short-sleeved shirts, they're not wearing any of the warm stuff. And they're hitting each other hard.

Mauro Fiore (14:43):
Well, I'll tell you one thing, what I learned being in Bozeman, was Go Cats.

Greyson Goody (14:46):
Go Cats, baby.

Taly Goody (14:48):
Go Cats. FTG...

Greyson Goody (14:48):
Go Cats.

Taly Goody (14:48):
... Do you know what that means?

Greyson Goody (14:48):
FTG, Fuck the Griz.

Mauro Fiore (14:48):
Yeah.

Bob Simon (14:49):
Oh, wow. FTG. [inaudible 00:14:50].

Mauro Fiore (14:50):
Fuck Grizzlies. Go Cats.

Taly Goody (14:53):
FTG. That's all I said running around the stadium.

Mauro Fiore (14:54):
It was Go Cats...

Taly Goody (14:54):
FTG.

Mauro Fiore (14:54):
... All the way.

Taly Goody (14:54):
Every time I saw a Griz.

Mauro Fiore (14:54):
Everywhere I went, it was Go Cats.

Greyson Goody (14:58):
Go Cats, baby. Go Cats.

Bob Simon (15:01):
Oh, you guys had so much success, you own property.

Taly Goody (15:06):
Yeah.

Bob Simon (15:06):
So Tally is from Palos Verdes.

Taly Goody (15:08):
Well, actually Torrance.

Bob Simon (15:08):
Well...

Taly Goody (15:08):
I grew up in Torrance, but now I live in Palos Verdes.

Mauro Fiore (15:12):
Well, they have RAT Beach, you know?

Taly Goody (15:14):
Yes.

Bob Simon (15:15):
Yeah.

Mauro Fiore (15:15):
Torrance.

Bob Simon (15:16):
They're very...

Mauro Fiore (15:16):
[inaudible 00:15:16].

Bob Simon (15:16):
RAT Beach is very territorial. Greyson will go surf there, they'll try to beat him up.

Mauro Fiore (15:21):
Well, yeah, they got the...

Greyson Goody (15:22):
They try. They try.

Mauro Fiore (15:23):
They got the Lunada Bay Boys down there. I grew up, you guys are from out state.

Bob Simon (15:26):
No, she's from [inaudible 00:15:26].

Mauro Fiore (15:26):
I grew up...

Taly Goody (15:26):
I'm not out of state.

Mauro Fiore (15:29):
I grew up in Diamond Bar and we knew about the Lunada Bay Boys, back in the old days. You don't go down there and fuck around, they'll kick your ass.

Taly Goody (15:34):
Do they still exist?

Greyson Goody (15:35):
Yeah. They like knife your tires and stuff like that, if you're not welcome. But...

Mauro Fiore (15:39):
Yeah.

Greyson Goody (15:40):
No, I surf down there all the time, man, I've never had any issues.

Mauro Fiore (15:43):
Nice. Well, you're six foot three.

Bob Simon (15:45):
You're tall and good-looking. Yes. Exactly.

Taly Goody (15:46):
And you're like so friendly, you'll go be like, hey, how's it going? You'll just be super friendly with everybody.

Greyson Goody (15:51):
Well, I try...

Mauro Fiore (15:51):
You grew up in Torrance?

Taly Goody (15:53):
I went to Torrance High. And then...

Mauro Fiore (15:55):
Which one? There's West Torrance, South Torrance.

Taly Goody (15:56):
The main Torrance. The main Torrance.

Greyson Goody (15:56):
Only one.

Mauro Fiore (15:58):
There's like a million Torrance High.

Taly Goody (15:59):
It's just the one and only Torrance High.

Mauro Fiore (16:00):
Just actual Torrance.

Taly Goody (16:01):
Not north, south, west.

Mauro Fiore (16:02):
Okay.

Taly Goody (16:02):
Yeah.

Bob Simon (16:02):
I mean, it's a normal public California high school. Because you see a lot of lawyers that start their own firms, we talk about this all the time, well, they have mom and dad with money.

Taly Goody (16:11):
Oh, no, no. Yeah. I didn't.

Mauro Fiore (16:13):
They went to Harvard-Westlake.

Taly Goody (16:16):
No, no, no.

Mauro Fiore (16:17):
It's like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, just like my high school. They got a fucking stadium, looks like SoFi, fucking Harvard-Westlake. Reminds me of my high school, it's like, watch out for the gopher holes or you'll break your fucking ankle.

Bob Simon (16:30):
Oh, man.

Mauro Fiore (16:31):
Yeah. It's different. LA is Weird, you can go 20 miles, and go from the poorest people to the richest people. All in...

Bob Simon (16:41):
Less than that. Five miles, four miles, three miles.

Mauro Fiore (16:43):
It's nuts. It's nuts.

Bob Simon (16:45):
[inaudible 00:16:45]. So what's it like for whenever you go to, I mean, I've known Greyson since, I mean, one of the first lawyers that we hired, now he's a partner. The mountain man, because you guys are all fucking vegans.

Taly Goody (16:57):
Oh, my gosh. Vegans.

Bob Simon (16:59):
I forgot about this. This guy is out there killing bison, bringing it back for us, and now he's a vegan. I think he's taller after being a vegan.

Mauro Fiore (17:06):
I have been for seven, eight years.

Taly Goody (17:07):
We're four years now.

Greyson Goody (17:08):
Yeah. Just over four years.

Mauro Fiore (17:10):
Yeah. I mean, you get used to it, and then it's just the way you live. That's it.

Greyson Goody (17:12):
It's easy. Yeah.

Mauro Fiore (17:12):
It's not a big deal.

Greyson Goody (17:13):
It's easy.

Mauro Fiore (17:14):
And you search out the good stuff. I mean, you guys, I'm sure have been to all the good vegan restaurants and...

Taly Goody (17:18):
Oh, yeah.

Greyson Goody (17:18):
You've given us some good tips, actually.

Mauro Fiore (17:19):
Yeah. I gave you some good tips.

Greyson Goody (17:20):
You've helped us a lot.

Mauro Fiore (17:22):
Whenever I eat something really good, I text it to Greyson. [inaudible 00:17:27].

Bob Simon (17:26):
He takes a picture and...

Mauro Fiore (17:28):
Yeah. Or maybe some other stuff, I text him, but don't tell. Your wife doesn't look at your phone, does she?

Greyson Goody (17:33):
She doesn't know.

Mauro Fiore (17:33):
Okay. Good.

Greyson Goody (17:33):
She doesn't know. Don't worry about it.

Bob Simon (17:37):
But yeah, Greyson used to bring, I mean, you have two brothers or three brothers?

Greyson Goody (17:42):
Three brothers.

Bob Simon (17:43):
Three brothers.

Greyson Goody (17:43):
I'm the youngest of four.

Bob Simon (17:44):
And your dad, still a trial lawyer?

Greyson Goody (17:46):
Yeah. Still a trial lawyer.

Bob Simon (17:48):
I don't know if you knew this, his dad is a trial lawyer, man.

Mauro Fiore (17:49):
In Wyoming?

Greyson Goody (17:51):
Washington State now.

Mauro Fiore (17:53):
Oh, nice.

Greyson Goody (17:53):
So he's in his mid-seventies, he's starting to kind of, stop taking, less cases. But he's got like two trial level cases a year, has habeas corpus, death penalty cases. So they're just crazy, crazy cases.

Bob Simon (18:04):
And Taly is now also licensed [inaudible 00:18:06].

Taly Goody (18:06):
In Wyoming.

Mauro Fiore (18:07):
Wow. We have an office, if you're illegal, in Seattle. I've been practicing up there for, since 2020, so I'm up in my Seattle office a lot. And it's cool. It's funny, I'm on the listserv for the, it's called the Washington State Eagles, right, you have to be an Eagle to be on the listserv. And if you looked at the Seattle listserv, and you looked at the [inaudible 00:18:33] listserv, it's exact same, I mean, trial lawyers are trial lawyers, man. Same shit they ask about and talk about on the Seattle one, I have both of them on my computer at one time, same questions, same problems.

Bob Simon (18:44):
This is confidential [inaudible 00:18:45].

Mauro Fiore (18:45):
It's all the same stuff.

Bob Simon (18:46):
You're breaching your...

Mauro Fiore (18:47):
I'm just saying, it's not...

Bob Simon (18:48):
[inaudible 00:18:48].

Taly Goody (18:48):
It's general info though.

Mauro Fiore (18:50):
I think people are weird about practicing outside their comfort zone, right? I mean, I went up to Seattle, I don't know a single person in Seattle, but I went up there and opened an office and it's done good. I know Bob is in, and you guys are in Arizona now, right?

Bob Simon (19:06):
Texas area.

Greyson Goody (19:06):
Texas. Yeah.

Mauro Fiore (19:08):
You guys are in Texas, right? Don't be afraid to go other places, man. There's...

Bob Simon (19:12):
I mean, how often are you guys making a point to go back? And it's a big property, you guys got to build on and do stuff.

Taly Goody (19:17):
It's hard to get there, like it's just not easy. We're not very close to the airport.

Bob Simon (19:20):
You don't have a PJ?

Taly Goody (19:22):
No, we need one though.

Greyson Goody (19:23):
Yeah. Where's that SLG PJ, bro?

Taly Goody (19:24):
Yeah. We need one.

Greyson Goody (19:25):
What is this?

Mauro Fiore (19:25):
Yeah. I know. [inaudible 00:19:28].

Greyson Goody (19:28):
Mauro's probably got a PJ.

Mauro Fiore (19:29):
No.

Bob Simon (19:30):
His friends have PJs.

Mauro Fiore (19:30):
Luckily, three of my best friends are Dordick, Rowley, and Dolan, and they got planes. I mean, people that don't really know me that well, they think, man, you got a private jet, I was like, no, all my friends got it, I ride free so far. I just show up and eat. I don't even bring snacks, I eat their shit. I fly around the whole country for free. Shit, we flew to Kentucky on Dordick's plane.

Bob Simon (19:55):
Oh, that's right.

Mauro Fiore (19:55):
Right. Remember?

Bob Simon (19:56):
I forgot about that.

Mauro Fiore (19:57):
Yeah. I mean...

Bob Simon (19:58):
And my daughter was on that flight.

Mauro Fiore (20:00):
Yeah. I mean, if your friends have a plane, it's even better than having your own, plus you don't have pay for shit.

Taly Goody (20:05):
It's so easy though. I mean, just...

Greyson Goody (20:05):
Yeah. I know.

Bob Simon (20:08):
But how do you get there? Do you fly to Bozeman?

Taly Goody (20:10):
So we have to fly to Jackson Hole.

Bob Simon (20:11):
Jackson Hole.

Taly Goody (20:12):
It's like about an hour away from Jackson Hole. And then once you get there, it's just like, I mean, if it's snowing, the conditions are awful, it's very difficult to get there. So...

Greyson Goody (20:22):
Yeah. Have either of you been to Jackson Hole?

Mauro Fiore (20:24):
I've been there many times.

Greyson Goody (20:25):
You've been there. So south of town, there's that big canyon. In the winter, that canyon just gets deathly, I mean, it's real icy. So you have to go through that canyon.

Mauro Fiore (20:32):
And if you go through that canyon, you get to the entrance to Yellowstone?

Greyson Goody (20:36):
There's one going north...

Taly Goody (20:38):
Other way.

Greyson Goody (20:38):
... And one going south. So this is the one going south

Mauro Fiore (20:40):
Because I've driven [inaudible 00:20:40].

Greyson Goody (20:41):
Yeah. But it's pretty difficult to get to. I mean, to answer your question, we'd like to stay out there, cut maybe a month, two months, out of every year.

Bob Simon (20:47):
Six months and a day.

Greyson Goody (20:48):
Just kind of like...

Bob Simon (20:49):
Six months and a day.

Taly Goody (20:51):
Well, to be honest, with you guys...

Greyson Goody (20:51):
Yeah. There might be some good tax breaks there.

Taly Goody (20:53):
There really isn't much in our town. We have a population of 102. No, it's more now.

Greyson Goody (20:56):
108 now.

Taly Goody (20:59):
Initially, it was 100, and then we became 102 when we moved in.

Bob Simon (21:02):
That's pretty cool.

Taly Goody (21:03):
And there is one store where they sell the basics.

Bob Simon (21:06):
Is it a general store?

Taly Goody (21:07):
It's a general store.

Greyson Goody (21:08):
Well, it's really a bar.

Taly Goody (21:09):
It's a bar.

Greyson Goody (21:11):
It's really a bar.

Bob Simon (21:11):
Is it a bar and grill?

Greyson Goody (21:12):
It's a bar and grill. Yeah.

Taly Goody (21:14):
But the grill is not that great.

Greyson Goody (21:15):
Yeah. The Elkhorn Bar and Grill. And they've got the best onion rings...

Taly Goody (21:19):
Okay. Yes.

Greyson Goody (21:19):
... And burgers in the entire valley, because they're the only restaurant in the entire valley.

Bob Simon (21:25):
I mean, both of your practices, you could do a lot of it remotely. But Greyson, you try a lot of cases, we travel and do all the shit. It's hard.

Taly Goody (21:31):
It's hard.

Bob Simon (21:32):
But are you able to practice there? For our listeners, a lot of people, you got to have brick and mortar, you got to be at your desk every day. But you guys...

Taly Goody (21:39):
I can do it there. Yeah. We just got better internet. What is it that we got?

Bob Simon (21:42):
Starlink probably.

Taly Goody (21:44):
Starlink. Yeah. Just got that.

Greyson Goody (21:46):
Yeah. We get Starlink out there.

Taly Goody (21:46):
So we're able to do Zooms and everything. So as long as we can do that, it's fine.

Greyson Goody (21:49):
Yeah. Well, I mean, you tried a case against a guy a few years ago, whose actually, turns out to be our neighbor.

Bob Simon (21:55):
Oh, shit, that's [inaudible 00:21:56].

Greyson Goody (21:56):
And he does stuff for like Honda and these big corporations, and he spends 95% of his time out there. And then when he has to try a case, he just flies out, goes and tries it, and then comes back. So you can definitely do it, you can do everything.

Bob Simon (22:08):
You got friends who do it. I mean, Rowley does it, and this is what you guys [inaudible 00:22:10].

Mauro Fiore (22:10):
Rowley's been doing it since before the pandemic, I mean, you could do that.

Bob Simon (22:14):
Literally, parachute in, jump out of a plane [inaudible 00:22:17]. Just have a suit on, a rip record, and your briefcase [inaudible 00:22:23].

Mauro Fiore (22:23):
I mean, me and Bob spent six weeks in Europe last summer. Shit, I think if I looked at the financials of my firm, the six weeks I was in Europe, I made more money than I think any six weeks, a whole year.

Taly Goody (22:36):
It's always like that.

Bob Simon (22:36):
[inaudible 00:22:37].

Mauro Fiore (22:37):
I was making money like crazy when I was in Europe.

Bob Simon (22:38):
Greyson and I were working on a big case, we settled for 35 million while we were there. And we were there and then our client was in Barcelona.

Mauro Fiore (22:45):
So it's like, who gives a shit where you're at...

Greyson Goody (22:46):
Barcelona.

Mauro Fiore (22:46):
... You got internet access and a cell phone, I can practice anywhere. If I got to try a case, I'll show up and try a case. Now, you can go anywhere you want.

Bob Simon (22:53):
But you guys have a young daughter, she's born in July.

Taly Goody (22:55):
Yes. June.

Bob Simon (22:55):
June.

Greyson Goody (22:55):
June.

Taly Goody (22:56):
June 17th, 2022.

Bob Simon (22:59):
I mean, she's nine months old.

Mauro Fiore (23:01):
Gemini.

Taly Goody (23:01):
Gemini.

Greyson Goody (23:02):
Little Gemini. Yeah.

Taly Goody (23:03):
She's almost eight.

Bob Simon (23:03):
So what's it like, I mean...

Mauro Fiore (23:05):
Cusp. She's a cusp.

Bob Simon (23:06):
You both have your own practice, he's trying cases all the time, what's that like?

Taly Goody (23:12):
I'm still figuring that out, to be honest with you. I mean, she's amazing, but it's different than what it used to be. I feel like I had a lot more obviously time to work up around my business, my firm, now I want to spend half my time with her. So it's just different, like it's priorities. I think it just comes down to what I want to do at this exact moment, like what am I going to prioritize.

Bob Simon (23:34):
Have you found yourself to be more efficient with things?

Taly Goody (23:37):
Yeah. Definitely.

Bob Simon (23:38):
So what are some things that you've done, or some things that you think you could give helpful tips to young moms that are own their own practices, how that can be more efficient?

Taly Goody (23:48):
Number one thing is, having your own practice and being a mom is, number one, the best thing you could do.

Bob Simon (23:51):
Nice.

Taly Goody (23:52):
Because you can create your own hours, you can figure out what you need, bring on an assistant or a case manager. I think that's number one, really important thing to do, is bring on someone that can do what you are doing, at least to help you part-time. Because I think what I found is that I'm working basically part-time right now, because I want to be there while she's growing up, I don't want to just be like, gone.

Bob Simon (24:13):
Do you have somebody? Is it like a VA, virtual assistant, a lot of people use? Or do you have somebody that's with you part-time?

Taly Goody (24:20):
Part-time. Have someone part-time. But I think I need to bring on a case manager, I think that's going to be, that's my next move, because I feel like I have so many cases right now. I feel like I'm kind of swimming under water, I'm like, okay, I need to, trying to keep up with everything, but it's all good.

Greyson Goody (24:37):
Yeah. We got really lucky, actually. So her mom and dad live like 10 minutes away from us, and her mom was working full time when we had the baby. She just retired, so she's helping us with the baby, she's helping us with the firm. So that's a huge help.

Taly Goody (24:53):
So she's helping. Yeah.

Greyson Goody (24:55):
I mean, that's great. And we do have the virtual assistance over in India, so we've got that going.

Taly Goody (24:58):
Oh, yeah, we do.

Bob Simon (24:58):
[inaudible 00:24:59].

Taly Goody (24:59):
We have that. We have the resources.

Bob Simon (25:00):
Those are like super helpful.

Taly Goody (25:01):
Yes. Doing things that I don't really want to do.

Bob Simon (25:03):
Do you guys use a lot of, I know you're in a lot of big organizational operational stuff, do you have like outsourced employees? Other countries.

Mauro Fiore (25:11):
Not yet. Although at my office, I have a COO at my office, and she's thinking about bringing in some outsourced overseas employees. So I let her do all the operations. I stay out of operations, not my bag of tricks. I'm more of the, as you can tell, I'm more of the face man of the organization. I...

Bob Simon (25:31):
Is it the face [inaudible 00:25:32].

Mauro Fiore (25:32):
I use this face to bring in the business. You know what I mean? And then, of course, my stellar trial skills.

Bob Simon (25:38):
Stellar.

Mauro Fiore (25:38):
Stellar. Stellar trial skills.

Bob Simon (25:40):
If you've never seen Mauro Fiori in at a trial, you...

Taly Goody (25:42):
Never.

Bob Simon (25:42):
... Should go, because it is the funniest shit ever. This is him, this is what he's doing [inaudible 00:25:46].

Mauro Fiore (25:46):
I don't really...

Taly Goody (25:46):
[inaudible 00:25:46].

Greyson Goody (25:46):
I mean...

Mauro Fiore (25:49):
I mean, I've tried over 50 jury trials, closer to like 60, and it's like, I never been in a boat or anything, because I don't want anyone to know I'm coming. It's like, why would I want to be in a boat? They think, man, this guy is like, whatever. And then I show up in trial, it's like, man. Right now, I got a verdict up on appeal, I got a verdict for a million bucks in Pomona. And this defense lawyer was trying to stick in all these jury instructions, and all this shit, that would've got by a lot of lawyers who hadn't tried 60 jury trials. It's like none of this comes in, man, are you crazy? You don't have any evidence on any of this shit, right? So the judge, is like, yeah, none of this comes in. So, of course...

Bob Simon (26:24):
Oh, yeah. [inaudible 00:26:25].

Mauro Fiore (26:25):
... They got whacked and they got...

Bob Simon (26:26):
I thought that was San Bernardino?

Mauro Fiore (26:27):
No, was in Pomona.

Bob Simon (26:28):
Wow.

Mauro Fiore (26:29):
And then now they're filing an appeal. And I'm reading the appeal the other day, and it's like, oh, we should have got this jury instruction, and this, it's like, man, you didn't even produce a fucking witness on that, how can you get this instruction? They're wasting time. They're just making me more money, 10% a year it's been on appeal. But yeah, so those things that inexperienced lawyers don't know, there's nothing like experience in the courtroom. That's it. You know what I mean? But...

Bob Simon (26:51):
It's more comfort to do like whatever the fuck you want.

Mauro Fiore (26:52):
Yeah. There's nothing like experience.

Bob Simon (26:54):
One of the first cases I ever tried, well, I'm going to pour Taly's whiskey. So Taly's...

Taly Goody (26:57):
Yes.

Bob Simon (26:57):
... Very big into, I got two for you...

Taly Goody (26:59):
Oh, that's good.

Bob Simon (26:59):
... The first one's a Japanese one, this is Yamazaki 12, which is a Japanese single malt.

Mauro Fiore (27:04):
Yeah. Kamikaze. Kamikaze. [inaudible 00:27:04].

Taly Goody (27:04):
Sorry, Mauro, you're...

Bob Simon (27:04):
Yeah. He...

Taly Goody (27:04):
... Going have to sacrifice yourself right now.

Bob Simon (27:13):
Like Mauro, we're more into the American bourbons and ryes.

Mauro Fiore (27:15):
I'm American. I'm American.

Greyson Goody (27:15):
Just have a little taste.

Mauro Fiore (27:15):
[inaudible 00:27:16].

Taly Goody (27:15):
It's not...

Greyson Goody (27:15):
Have a little taste.

Taly Goody (27:15):
Don't be so stubborn.

Greyson Goody (27:15):
Something a little foreign is okay.

Mauro Fiore (27:16):
You twisted my arm.

Bob Simon (27:20):
We spend a lot of time together, we always know that we get Taly the scotch, a single malt. And this is something, I think, she would like.

Mauro Fiore (27:25):
Any Glen. Any Glen. Any Glen.

Taly Goody (27:27):
I love that one.

Bob Simon (27:27):
Actually, at our house, I always keep...

Taly Goody (27:27):
Glen?

Mauro Fiore (27:28):
As they say, in the old movie, Swingers, any Glen, any Glen. Glengarry, Glenrothes.

Greyson Goody (27:32):
Glenfiddich.

Mauro Fiore (27:33):
Glenfiddich. Single malt, of course.

Taly Goody (27:34):
Yeah. That's true, actually.

Mauro Fiore (27:35):
No blend, no blend.

Bob Simon (27:36):
Glengarry, Glenrothes.

Greyson Goody (27:38):
Oh, yeah. Always single malt. Always single malt, baby.

Mauro Fiore (27:39):
Single malt. Any Glen. Any Glen. That's John Favreau's line from Swingers. Movie is probably...

Greyson Goody (27:42):
Thank you Bob.

Mauro Fiore (27:43):
... Older than you.

Bob Simon (27:44):
I've seen it. Everybody loves that movie. I feel so uncomfortable every time John Favreau does something, it's just like so much [inaudible 00:27:51].

Mauro Fiore (27:50):
But I remember that shit. This is before cell phones, like you'd call your answering machine to see if you had any messages.

Taly Goody (27:58):
Oh, the good old days.

Greyson Goody (27:58):
Right. Right. Yeah.

Mauro Fiore (27:59):
I remember doing that shit.

Taly Goody (27:59):
I miss that.

Mauro Fiore (27:59):
So I see that movie and it brings me back to my own life. Because I also, like Favreau in the movie, had girlfriends cheating on me all the time. So I would always be like trying to check on them.

Bob Simon (28:10):
When you watch Citizen Kane, does it remind you of your childhood?

Mauro Fiore (28:12):
No.

Bob Simon (28:12):
Does it bring you back?

Mauro Fiore (28:18):
No. Lassie reminds me of my childhood. You know what reminds me of my childhood?

Bob Simon (28:22):
Hey, Girl, Timmy fell in a well.

Mauro Fiore (28:22):
You know what, Lassie reminds me of my childhood. Since I was like...

Bob Simon (28:22):
He and his tangents.

Mauro Fiore (28:22):
Since I was like five years old...

Greyson Goody (28:25):
Lassie.

Mauro Fiore (28:26):
... My dad always told me the same thing.

Bob Simon (28:27):
Cheer, by the way.

Taly Goody (28:27):
Cheers.

Mauro Fiore (28:27):
Cheers.

Greyson Goody (28:28):
Cheers.

Mauro Fiore (28:28):
You know what my dad always told me since I was five years old? He'd say, son...

Bob Simon (28:31):
Herd them sheep, Lassie.

Mauro Fiore (28:33):
He said, Lassie is a big movie star, she takes a shit and then smokes a cigar. So I tell my son, who's four, I say, did you know Lassie takes a shit and then smokes a cigar? And my wife says, don't tell him that stupidity that your father told you, but I have to pass it on...

Greyson Goody (28:52):
You have to.

Mauro Fiore (28:53):
... Because I really believed Lassie shit and smoked cigars.

Bob Simon (28:57):
You remember the shit that your parents said to you now, and like, that was such horseshit, there's no way that was true. Remember asking my dad very vividly, I was like, dad, you know the F-word is like the worst word you could say these days, I was probably like 10 or 11, I was like, what was the worst word during your day? So he was like jagoff. I remember thinking like, whoa, and he was like, worst word in our day. He's probably like, I fucked with the kids last night, I told him jagoff was the worst word ever.

Taly Goody (29:23):
That's so funny.

Bob Simon (29:24):
The shit he used to tell us [inaudible 00:29:25].

Mauro Fiore (29:25):
It sounds like [inaudible 00:29:25].

Bob Simon (29:25):
Oh, yeah. It's something he would do.

Greyson Goody (29:25):
Yeah. It does.

Bob Simon (29:25):
He went for a [inaudible 00:29:29] yesterday, just gets out of the hospital, he's texting us, he's ready for whiskey.

Mauro Fiore (29:33):
And golf.

Taly Goody (29:33):
What? What did he get? Heart...

Greyson Goody (29:34):
He's wondering when he can drink whiskey.

Bob Simon (29:36):
Actually, Greyson asked the question today. We're all on the same chat with all of our friends, my dad's on it. He had an ablation. What's an ablation? He had to change the electrical signals in his heart.

Greyson Goody (29:45):
It's like you go through the femoral thing and then...

Mauro Fiore (29:45):
What is this shit? This is...

Taly Goody (29:45):
Femoral thing?

Mauro Fiore (29:45):
It's kind of spooky.

Greyson Goody (29:52):
Femoral. From the femoral vein and then you bring it. It's like a stent to the heart.

Taly Goody (29:54):
We need Ari here to talk about medical stuff.

Greyson Goody (29:55):
Yeah. Pretty intense though, huh?

Bob Simon (29:58):
Her sister, Taly has a sister, she's got three brothers, but she's a doc, well, will be a doctor.

Taly Goody (30:02):
Yeah. Soon.

Greyson Goody (30:03):
Yeah. And she's cute too. She's single.

Taly Goody (30:06):
She's...

Bob Simon (30:06):
Single.

Taly Goody (30:06):
Not residency yet, no.

Mauro Fiore (30:06):
Is that right?

Greyson Goody (30:06):
Single.

Taly Goody (30:06):
She's going to Miami for rotations. So I'm going to go see her actually, flying out tomorrow to go visit her.

Mauro Fiore (30:12):
Is that right? Miami, huh?

Taly Goody (30:13):
Excited. She'll be there for like three months.

Bob Simon (30:14):
Miami.

Taly Goody (30:14):
Miami. Yeah. That's right.

Mauro Fiore (30:16):
I'm not a big Miami fan myself.

Taly Goody (30:17):
Why? It's like so fun.

Greyson Goody (30:18):
Why not? I feel like we'd thrive there.

Bob Simon (30:19):
We feel the same about this. Jersey Shoresy, he calls it.

Taly Goody (30:23):
The nightlife is a little too much.

Bob Simon (30:24):
Too filthy. Too filthy.

Taly Goody (30:24):
Yeah. Too filthy.

Greyson Goody (30:26):
It's filthy.

Bob Simon (30:26):
Mauro calling something too filthy.

Mauro Fiore (30:28):
It's too filthy, at this point in my life. When I was younger, yes, maybe.

Taly Goody (30:33):
I'm...

Mauro Fiore (30:35):
I'm like Bob now, I like to go to bed. I know, for sure, if I text Bob after 8:30, I'm not getting a response until 4:00 AM.

Bob Simon (30:42):
It's true.

Greyson Goody (30:42):
Until 4:00 AM. Yeah.

Mauro Fiore (30:44):
Yeah. And you know what, Bob had kids before me, so he always used to say, "What's there to do after eight o'clock? I go to bed." And I'm thinking, man, he's weird. And then I had kids, I'm like, fuck, what's there to do after 7:30?

Bob Simon (30:55):
It's true.

Mauro Fiore (30:57):
Because my kids go to bed, I follow them right into the sack. When they go to bed at 7:30, I'm in bed right after them.

BB (31:03):
They're fucking exhausting.

Greyson Goody (31:04):
Yeah. We've doing the same.

Bob Simon (31:05):
I'm just on their schedule. They wake up early, I'm up early, but I went to bed when they did, I'm refreshed.

Taly Goody (31:10):
It's true. Don't stay up an hour later, just go to bed right when they do. I'm learning that right now.

Bob Simon (31:17):
So what was it like? Because I know very few couples that dated in law school, got married, and continued, usually there's too much stress involved at some point. So how did you get, oh, you guys took the bar at different times?

Taly Goody (31:30):
Different times.

Greyson Goody (31:31):
We did.

Bob Simon (31:31):
So what was that like? Because that's a very stressful time for...

Taly Goody (31:34):
I think it was really nice though, because we balance each other out. I feel like he's always calming me down, I'm a little bit more wild.

Bob Simon (31:40):
Greyson is the most chill motherfucker ever.

Taly Goody (31:40):
Yeah. So we're a good balance.

Greyson Goody (31:40):
[inaudible 00:31:43].

Bob Simon (31:40):
Dude, he's like...

Taly Goody (31:40):
Yes.

Bob Simon (31:45):
If you ever try a case with Greyson Goody, it's just like, you're just on...

Taly Goody (31:47):
So blessed.

Bob Simon (31:47):
... Some sort of, you're like high the whole time. It's just like...

Mauro Fiore (31:51):
I like that. We could probably work good together.

Greyson Goody (31:52):
We work well together. Yeah.

Bob Simon (31:53):
Greyson, look at this.

Greyson Goody (31:53):
No.

Bob Simon (31:56):
He didn't do it. Okay. God, he's so good at this. We used to try cases [inaudible 00:31:58].

Greyson Goody (31:57):
A lot of practice. A lot of practice.

Bob Simon (32:00):
You ever do this game where you put the circle down here and you put your finger through it as kids?

Mauro Fiore (32:03):
No.

Bob Simon (32:03):
We were just trying like this, a case we had [inaudible 00:32:06].

Mauro Fiore (32:06):
Can I try it on you? Can I put my finger...

Bob Simon (32:08):
I'll show you the game. See, we as kids, we knew it, but I didn't know, like I grew up in Pittsburgh, he's over in Wyoming and Jackson Hole. So we're just in the middle of the trial, and I just see him put his hand down like this, and I look, and he punches me right in the shoulder. We're like a big witness about to come on, I was like, "What the fuck?" Now, this is the running thing we do at [inaudible 00:32:24], he just goes like this, you put your finger through, and then you get, you don't know this game?

Mauro Fiore (32:27):
No.

Bob Simon (32:27):
Oh, my God.

Taly Goody (32:28):
No.

Bob Simon (32:28):
Actually, saw they did to...

Mauro Fiore (32:28):
No, man.

Bob Simon (32:28):
... A hockey player, was on...

Mauro Fiore (32:29):
We didn't do that.

Bob Simon (32:29):
SportsCenter, he was doing this to the guys on the pitch.

Mauro Fiore (32:33):
Yeah. I think that was more of a Midwest thing or something.

Bob Simon (32:36):
God. Isn't Diamond Bar in the Midwest of California?

Mauro Fiore (32:39):
Diamond Bar is in LA County.

Taly Goody (32:42):
Yeah. I've been there.

Mauro Fiore (32:42):
Yeah. You're not missing anything.

Taly Goody (32:44):
It's not that great, sorry.

Mauro Fiore (32:45):
No, understand.

Bob Simon (32:47):
He says it's Diamond Bar for a reason. He tells me there's diamonds there.

Taly Goody (32:50):
No, no, no, not at all.

Bob Simon (32:51):
You're lying to me.

Mauro Fiore (32:52):
No. That's right.

Bob Simon (32:56):
There it is. I mean, Greyson, you try like a six, eight week trial out of town. And the little girl, she's probably four or five months at this time.

Taly Goody (33:06):
I think when she started...

Greyson Goody (33:07):
Three.

Taly Goody (33:08):
... Three months.

Bob Simon (33:08):
Jesus.

Mauro Fiore (33:09):
Oh, it's got to be painful.

Greyson Goody (33:11):
Oh, yeah. We started on...

Bob Simon (33:12):
He's going to fall asleep [inaudible 00:33:13].

Greyson Goody (33:13):
... September 28th. I know.

Bob Simon (33:15):
He's going down.

Greyson Goody (33:15):
I felt the same. This was like...

Bob Simon (33:17):
He's going down.

Greyson Goody (33:18):
It was tough, because it's up in San Francisco. We started in September 28th, we didn't get done until December 17th.

Mauro Fiore (33:23):
Jesus.

Greyson Goody (33:24):
And every week, I'm coming home, and like the baby's got something new, she's learning. I mean, it's those early stages, where she's like, yeah, oh, she's rolling over, she's doing this, she's doing this. So it was tough. And I think I called you at one point, Bob...

Bob Simon (33:36):
[inaudible 00:33:37].

Greyson Goody (33:37):
... And I'm like, "Dude, I feel like a bad father, like I'm a bad husband. I'm not there." But you said something that I really liked, it was, you put in the time now to make time for yourself and for your family later. Ended up being a great verdict.

Bob Simon (33:51):
Yeah. We had a lot of time, where we were, Greyson and I tried a long case up in Sacramento for like six, eight weeks, and I had a picture of little baby Remi on the boxes in her back of, we were driving up there together, and that was just like, it is hard, man. And I told him. That was the last long trial that I did, and I had the same feeling, it was like, be home for close to trials, that are quick trials hereafter. Because it's hard, and it's hard on you.

Taly Goody (34:19):
Well, it's hard, yeah. I mean, luckily, I have my mom, that helps. But if I was by myself, that would be like...

Bob Simon (34:25):
But it's because your business has to kind of take a little backseat.

Taly Goody (34:26):
Oh, yeah. Because if I was just like, okay, I'm not working at all, I can't. I have to work, I have to show up at least part of the day, for my clients and for...

Mauro Fiore (34:35):
Yeah. I mean, especially if you have small kids, there's a routine, right?

Taly Goody (34:39):
Right.

Mauro Fiore (34:39):
Like at my house, my routine is, I'm a morning person, I get up early.

Greyson Goody (34:42):
[inaudible 00:34:43].

Mauro Fiore (34:43):
So I deal with my kids early in the morning and...

Bob Simon (34:46):
You let Alex sleep...

Mauro Fiore (34:48):
We screw around.

Bob Simon (34:48):
... For as long as she can.

Mauro Fiore (34:48):
My wife sleeps as longs as she can. And then we have a nanny that comes during the week, nanny shows up at 8:30, but I've been up with the kids already for a couple of hours. And then most of the time, I'll do some work, and then I get back and I deal with the kids again in the afternoon, when I get home from work.

Bob Simon (35:05):
And if you're in trial, that's all haywire, man.

Mauro Fiore (35:08):
At 6:00 or 6:30. Yeah. And then from 6:30 to 7:30, or 8:00, when they go to bed, I'm with them again, we...

Bob Simon (35:14):
When is the Cinemax routine for you?

Mauro Fiore (35:15):
Skinemax or Cinemax?

Bob Simon (35:15):
There it was.

Taly Goody (35:15):
Skinemax.

Greyson Goody (35:15):
There it is. Skinemax.

Bob Simon (35:15):
It's just like a cue for him.

Greyson Goody (35:15):
Skinemax [inaudible 00:35:16].

Mauro Fiore (35:15):
Did you ever see Lady Chatterley's Lover?

Bob Simon (35:22):
No, but it sounds [inaudible 00:35:24].

Mauro Fiore (35:24):
Oh, you got to see Lady Chatterley's, it's amazing.

Taly Goody (35:26):
I did not see that.

Mauro Fiore (35:26):
Did you see Lady Chatterley's?

Greyson Goody (35:27):
[inaudible 00:35:28].

Taly Goody (35:27):
Wait, is it on Netflix?

Bob Simon (35:27):
Oh, it's not on there, this is way before Netflix.

Mauro Fiore (35:27):
This was on...

Greyson Goody (35:27):
Yeah. This is Skinemax.

Mauro Fiore (35:27):
This is when...

Greyson Goody (35:27):
This is 9:30 PM. This is 9:30 PM.

Taly Goody (35:30):
Wait, what is Skinemax?

Mauro Fiore (35:30):
Back in the 80s and 90s...

Taly Goody (35:34):
Oh, is this like inappropriate stuff?

Greyson Goody (35:34):
Yeah.

Bob Simon (35:37):
... Cinemax, after midnight, would show skin flicks. So they used to have this one called Lady Chatterley's Lovers, really amazing.

Taly Goody (35:45):
You've seen it?

Greyson Goody (35:45):
Oh, yeah.

Mauro Fiore (35:46):
The acting is amazing as well.

Bob Simon (35:47):
My dad used to sell, I don't know if I can tell this story, it's really weird.

Greyson Goody (35:47):
Tell it.

Bob Simon (35:52):
One of my Irish cousins used to get, they would call them cheater boxes. It's called descrambler, where you could see all the pay-per-view shows and get all the bad stuff and all the good movies. So we had like a source, so we were slinging these little black boxes at school. So me and Brad were like the teachers best friends, like, Hey, you got under. Because they would, everyone [inaudible 00:36:10] change the code, so you need a new descrambler. We'd have them coming over from West Virginia, they come over, they'll be like. Remember this one guy, he wasn't even one of our teachers, he was such a hard-ass, he was like, "Hey, do you guys have the stuff?" "What you talking about?" "You guys have the box?" We're like, "You got 80 bucks?" We were slinging just pay-per-view. We were the kids, you go over to our house, you watch, like on loop, all the old octagon fights, all those things.

Mauro Fiore (36:33):
Well, I mean, this is really dating, older people will understand it, but you could also watch these channels while they were scrambled, because once in a while they would come into focus.

Bob Simon (36:42):
Oh, God.

Greyson Goody (36:42):
I've been there.

Bob Simon (36:42):
Is this why you have a kink in your neck?

Greyson Goody (36:42):
I've been there.

Bob Simon (36:42):
Something like this.

Mauro Fiore (36:45):
You'd come into focus and then it would scramble again. But you could hear the audio and you could kind of make out what was on the screen. And if you're like, this is pre-internet porn days, this was really primo stuff.

Greyson Goody (36:59):
Back then. Yeah.

Mauro Fiore (37:00):
Now, you can just go on your phone and you can see any craziness. It's like this generation is going to be just a whole different world.

Greyson Goody (37:06):
Oh, totally different world.

Bob Simon (37:08):
Wow. And speaking of this generation, so TikTok, we have Instagram and TikTok. I mean, you've gone viral on TikTok a few times.

Taly Goody (37:12):
Yeah.

Bob Simon (37:13):
I mean, how have you leveraged social media for your practice?

Taly Goody (37:18):
Yeah. I mean, I went on with no expectations, I was like, "I'm going to go on, see what happens," when I first started my firm. And it exceeded my expectations. I got, within the first six months, I got two of my biggest cases. And from there, I've just been organically getting more clients.

Mauro Fiore (37:36):
From TikTok?

Taly Goody (37:37):
TikTok. And now Instagram. Both.

Mauro Fiore (37:38):
I've never tried TikTok. I mean, I got enough bad habits, I haven't gone to TikTok yet.

Taly Goody (37:46):
Okay. I'm really excited for this one.

Greyson Goody (37:47):
Yeah. [inaudible 00:37:47].

Bob Simon (37:47):
So this is...

Taly Goody (37:47):
Sorry, I need to try this.

Bob Simon (37:48):
So...

Greyson Goody (37:49):
The Estate.

Bob Simon (37:50):
Charles Lew, who owns The Firm here, I asked him, I said, "My friends here are big Macallan fans," and he has something behind the bar called The Estate, which I've never had before.

Taly Goody (37:59):
How many years is it? It doesn't even say.

Bob Simon (38:01):
Dude, I mean...

Taly Goody (38:01):
It's a mystery.

Bob Simon (38:03):
I mean, it's got to be 30 at least, if this is an Estate.

Taly Goody (38:05):
Oh, my God. I've never had a Macallan 30.

Mauro Fiore (38:06):
No age statement. That means that it's...

Bob Simon (38:09):
I don't know. But we [inaudible 00:38:11].

Greyson Goody (38:10):
There's a Macallan 30 on the shelf.

Bob Simon (38:12):
Yeah. I mean...

Greyson Goody (38:13):
Guys got it.

Bob Simon (38:14):
This is special. Comes in a little bow. You guys imbibe. Mauro and I are going to take the...

Taly Goody (38:20):
So excited.

Bob Simon (38:21):
We're going to take the Yellowstone, I think.

Taly Goody (38:23):
The Yellowstone is really good, I got to say, it was very smooth.

Greyson Goody (38:28):
Mauro, did you ever watch Emmanuelle in Space?

Mauro Fiore (38:30):
Yes, I did.

Greyson Goody (38:30):
That's another one on there.

Bob Simon (38:31):
You know what's...

Mauro Fiore (38:31):
Oh, yeah. Those were the best.

Bob Simon (38:32):
That was my fantasy football team name once, when I had [inaudible 00:38:35].

Greyson Goody (38:34):
I remember that. I remember that.

Mauro Fiore (38:37):
You know what?

Bob Simon (38:37):
I won that year. [inaudible 00:38:39].

Mauro Fiore (38:38):
I played in a fantasy football league with Bob where his name was Jacquizz in my face. Jacquizz.

Bob Simon (38:44):
I may have got a warning from Yahoo for that one.

Mauro Fiore (38:46):
Because there was a guy...

Bob Simon (38:49):
Jacquizz Rogers. He was a real player.

Mauro Fiore (38:50):
... Who played in the NFL named Jacquizz Rogers.

Greyson Goody (38:50):
Jacquizz Rogers. Yeah.

Mauro Fiore (38:50):
And Bob's...

Bob Simon (38:50):
What do you want me to do? It's his real name.

Mauro Fiore (38:53):
Bob's name was Jacquizz in my face. I like how Greyson just keeps his name as just Greyson's Team.

Bob Simon (38:56):
Greyson's Team.

Greyson Goody (38:56):
Greyson's Team. With the football helmet on there.

Mauro Fiore (38:59):
I've been in the same league.

Bob Simon (39:00):
She's always good, she wins like...

Taly Goody (39:03):
Luckily, I don't even know how I win. Actually, he helps [inaudible 00:39:05].

Greyson Goody (39:05):
She's good. She's nice.

Bob Simon (39:06):
I've been in the same league with these guys for years.

Taly Goody (39:08):
I don't do it by myself.

Mauro Fiore (39:09):
And me and Greyson are the only losers that, like mine is Mauro's Team and his is Greyson's Team.

Greyson Goody (39:13):
Perpetually lose every year.

Taly Goody (39:15):
I'm Little_Vegan_87.

Bob Simon (39:15):
Little Vegan.

Greyson Goody (39:15):
Little Vegan.

Taly Goody (39:16):
With like underscores, like an AIM.

Greyson Goody (39:16):
No, Little_Vegan_187.

Taly Goody (39:18):
Yeah. 187.

Mauro Fiore (39:18):
Although I think I made...

Greyson Goody (39:18):
[inaudible 00:39:19].

Mauro Fiore (39:18):
Although one time, did I play in the finals against you one year? Or the semis, in one year?

Greyson Goody (39:24):
I don't think I've ever made the finals.

Mauro Fiore (39:26):
I think you beat me in the semis one year.

Greyson Goody (39:30):
I might have gotten lucky one year.

Mauro Fiore (39:31):
I've never won that league. Although this is...

Bob Simon (39:33):
I've won that league twice [inaudible 00:39:34].

Mauro Fiore (39:35):
We don't have enough time for this today, but I once played in like a very serious fantasy football league with Bob and some of his...

Bob Simon (39:42):
Oh, yeah. This was...

Mauro Fiore (39:43):
... Non-lawyer friends. Just the biggest fucking idiots, I mean, these are idiots you've ever met in your life.

Bob Simon (39:48):
It was a live auction league, it was very different. Mauro [inaudible 00:39:51].

Mauro Fiore (39:50):
Yeah. With all of Bob's like buddies from the South Bay. And then Bob brought me into this league. And let me just tell you, these guys, they kicked me out of the league, I mean, I was...

Bob Simon (39:59):
He would do cellphone videos and post it on our chats about like he's wishing them death. You don't even know these people.

Mauro Fiore (40:05):
No, this one guy, he's an asshole, I said, I hope you get cancer and AIDS.

Taly Goody (40:08):
What?

Bob Simon (40:09):
He did say that.

Greyson Goody (40:10):
That will get you kicked out of a league.

Bob Simon (40:10):
Didn't know these people.

Mauro Fiore (40:13):
The guy is an asshole, man. These guys are assholes, man, I hate those guys.

Bob Simon (40:17):
They wouldn't trade with him.

Mauro Fiore (40:19):
They wouldn't trade with me.

Taly Goody (40:20):
So sad.

Mauro Fiore (40:21):
And then their draft takes four days. I mean, these guys...

Greyson Goody (40:27):
You guys are crazies, that do it like in person, you got the board up there.

Bob Simon (40:30):
And that one's a little intense.

Greyson Goody (40:31):
That's a little intense.

Mauro Fiore (40:32):
And then...

Bob Simon (40:32):
Well, what do you think about this [inaudible 00:40:33].

Mauro Fiore (40:33):
When they kicked me out of the league...

Taly Goody (40:34):
Well, I was trying to figure this out, I don't know.

Mauro Fiore (40:35):
... Some guy took over my team and won the league.

Taly Goody (40:35):
It doesn't taste like...

Bob Simon (40:35):
I want to see what the...

Taly Goody (40:40):
I think it's just fancy...

Bob Simon (40:41):
You know what? I think...

Taly Goody (40:41):
... I don't think it's that good.

Bob Simon (40:44):
We have a special guest who's, we're at The Firm, owned by none other than Charles Lew. So we had a question about the Macallan, so...

Taly Goody (40:50):
Hi, Charles.

Mauro Fiore (40:50):
Hey, Charles.

Greyson Goody (40:50):
Hello. Hello.

Bob Simon (40:51):
Can you introduce us to this bottle?

Charles Lew (40:53):
Yes. I just pop on?

Bob Simon (40:54):
Yeah. Just pop on as our co-host.

Greyson Goody (40:55):
Yeah. Jump in.

Taly Goody (40:55):
This one.

Charles Lew (40:55):
This bottle.

Taly Goody (40:55):
Hi, good to see you.

Charles Lew (40:55):
Good to see you.

Greyson Goody (40:55):
Hey, man, thanks for having us.

Charles Lew (41:02):
Yeah. I love that. The jacket is very [inaudible 00:41:04].

Bob Simon (41:06):
It's like your kilts.

Charles Lew (41:07):
It is.

Bob Simon (41:07):
A lot of kilts like this.

Charles Lew (41:09):
So Macallan Estate, incredible single malt. What did you get from it? What type of flavor [inaudible 00:41:15].

Bob Simon (41:14):
They are the ones that drank, we sucked the Yellowstone.

Charles Lew (41:16):
Okay. What'd you get?

Taly Goody (41:18):
It's different. It's...

Bob Simon (41:19):
They got wood chip, wood chip.

Taly Goody (41:20):
Yeah. I like the 18 better than that.

Charles Lew (41:20):
You like it?

Taly Goody (41:22):
Yeah.

Charles Lew (41:22):
Okay.

Taly Goody (41:24):
I'm just trying to understand it.

Greyson Goody (41:27):
I had like a kind of caramel taste, like kind of like a long caramel taste. I actually really liked it, I thought it was very smooth.

Bob Simon (41:32):
Is it carmel or caramel?

Taly Goody (41:32):
Caramel.

Bob Simon (41:32):
Potayto, potahto.

Taly Goody (41:32):
Caramel.

Mauro Fiore (41:38):
Caramel.

Bob Simon (41:38):
I actually think both, I don't know. But I always say caramel.

Charles Lew (41:38):
Maybe one when I'm referencing the color as opposed to the candy.

Bob Simon (41:41):
Okay. Or carmel.

Mauro Fiore (41:45):
My grandma's name was Carmela.

Charles Lew (41:49):
That's helpful.

Taly Goody (41:53):
Thanks Mauro. Thank you.

Greyson Goody (41:53):
That's how you don't pronounce it.

Bob Simon (41:53):
Or is it Carmela? Kamala?

Mauro Fiore (41:56):
Not Kamala, fucker, Carmela.

Bob Simon (41:58):
Carmela.

Taly Goody (42:01):
Okay. I'm going to try it again.

Bob Simon (42:01):
Is she in the Sopranos?

Mauro Fiore (42:02):
No, that was Tony Soprano's wife, Carmela. Yeah.

Greyson Goody (42:05):
Oh, Carmela Soprano.

Bob Simon (42:06):
I feel like he just [inaudible 00:42:07].

Mauro Fiore (42:06):
You know that I'm known as phony soprano, they call me.

Bob Simon (42:11):
Phony soprano.

Mauro Fiore (42:12):
Phony Soprano.

Charles Lew (42:13):
No age statement. So it's going to taste different.

Taly Goody (42:14):
That's what I was wondering, I'm like, what is the exact...

Charles Lew (42:17):
Yeah. So no age statement.

Bob Simon (42:18):
What does it mean when they have a no age statement?

Charles Lew (42:19):
It means they're not going to designate a specific age, as in 15 year, 18 year, 25. Really-

Mauro Fiore (42:25):
But there's no minimum, right? Like bourbon has to be four years before they release it.

Charles Lew (42:29):
Well, there is a minimum, yeah.

Mauro Fiore (42:31):
So...

Charles Lew (42:31):
There's not going to be anything in here less than 10, 12 years. Actually, 12 years. But no specific age statement. Really cool thing about this box actually though, or this packaging, is that the box for this comes in a slate box. So an actual slate, like real slate, quarried very, very close to the distillery.

Greyson Goody (42:53):
Oh, cool.

Charles Lew (42:53):
So it's this beautiful slate packaging. The whole idea was to pay homage to the Macallan Estate Distillery. And most people will get like fig and very, very, very pronounced orange, people say are very, very pronounced, like a candied orange or a candied citrus flavor. So...

Bob Simon (43:14):
Wow. See...

Charles Lew (43:15):
That's what you should be...

Bob Simon (43:16):
I mean, we should [inaudible 00:43:16] our color commentary here for our carmel or caramel flavors.

Charles Lew (43:20):
Yeah. But that's what people get.

Bob Simon (43:21):
There was no caramel in there, you asshole.

Greyson Goody (43:23):
I know, right?

Bob Simon (43:24):
Yeah. I was going to say, I'm like, what?

Greyson Goody (43:25):
What am I tasting?

Charles Lew (43:26):
No, look, I think caramel, carmel...

Mauro Fiore (43:28):
You got to fix that sniffer of yours.

Charles Lew (43:29):
... It's a very generically good solid answer. It's like saying, oak or vanilla, you're going to be right 95% of the time.

Greyson Goody (43:39):
Yeah. [inaudible 00:43:40] percent of the time I'm wrong.

Bob Simon (43:39):
[inaudible 00:43:40].

Taly Goody (43:39):
So you sound like you know what you're talking about.

Charles Lew (43:39):
Oaky. Oaky.

Greyson Goody (43:39):
Oaky.

Taly Goody (43:39):
Yes.

Charles Lew (43:39):
[inaudible 00:43:41] safe 90% of the time.

Bob Simon (43:39):
All right, man, thank you very much.

Taly Goody (43:39):
Thank you. Appreciate it.

Bob Simon (43:46):
Will you take the bottle? That's yours. We stole it.

Charles Lew (43:47):
Oh, got it.

Taly Goody (43:48):
And your selection is amazing, like love it.

Charles Lew (43:49):
Thank you. Yeah. We're very proud of it.

Greyson Goody (43:51):
It really is.

Charles Lew (43:52):
Thank you. Appreciate that.

Taly Goody (43:53):
Thank you.

Bob Simon (43:54):
All right. So we're wrapping up this episode of Bourbon of Proof and...

Mauro Fiore (43:56):
I mean, we're wrapping it up, I'm not even buzzed.

Greyson Goody (43:58):
Yeah. Me either. Hit me with some more of that Yellowstone.

Taly Goody (44:02):
We need one more.

Bob Simon (44:02):
All right. One more quick one.

Greyson Goody (44:02):
Oh, jeez.

Bob Simon (44:02):
Goddamn.

Taly Goody (44:02):
We're not even our fourth one yet.

Bob Simon (44:02):
This was four.

Taly Goody (44:02):
That was three, I'm counting.

Greyson Goody (44:06):
That was three, for sure.

Taly Goody (44:07):
I'm pretty like, I know what's going on.

Mauro Fiore (44:08):
[inaudible 00:44:08] wrap it up, man, we haven't even gotten past their courting.

Bob Simon (44:11):
No, we did four. We did one...

Greyson Goody (44:11):
Wait, Mauro?

Bob Simon (44:12):
... Two, three, four.

Taly Goody (44:12):
Oh, it is four, you're right.

Greyson Goody (44:17):
Why did you open up a branch up in Seattle? What's in Seattle for you?

Taly Goody (44:18):
It is four, shoot.

Mauro Fiore (44:18):
So yeah, I went up there because it's less competition, it's not as competitive on the internet. Because even though I've practiced before the internet revolution, in the 90s, I started practicing, I've realized that this is where people get a lot of cases, other than...

Bob Simon (44:36):
Oh, so he has a direct off of PornHub. Direct link off of...

Mauro Fiore (44:40):
A redirect off, well, it's...

Taly Goody (44:41):
Wait, really?

Mauro Fiore (44:42):
Well, if you look up...

Taly Goody (44:42):
I was like, what [inaudible 00:44:46].

Mauro Fiore (44:42):
If you look up...

Greyson Goody (44:46):
And Mauro's face pops up [inaudible 00:44:47].

Mauro Fiore (44:47):
If you look up the Italian sausage man, it goes straight to my website.

Bob Simon (44:53):
But misspelled by one letter.

Mauro Fiore (44:54):
Yeah. If you look up Italian [inaudible 00:44:56], it goes to my website.

Bob Simon (44:57):
[inaudible 00:44:58].

Mauro Fiore (44:59):
But, no. So it's just a different, less competitive market, up there. Easier to get cases off the internet and things like that. Whereas down here, it's so expensive and so competitive in California. That I figured, I hedge my bets, I go up there and get some, it worked out really good. And with Zoom and everything, I have my staff up there, I have meetings with them every week on Zoom, we talk. I don't even need to go, even though I do go up to Seattle, maybe every three months I go up.

Bob Simon (45:27):
Six months and a day

Mauro Fiore (45:28):
Yeah. Exactly. I go up there every three months. If you ever go to Seattle, there's a vegan bakery, right in Pikes Place Market. The gigantic vegan chocolate croissants will blow your mind away.

Greyson Goody (45:41):
We've been to Pikes Place...

Taly Goody (45:43):
Oh, we have been.

Greyson Goody (45:44):
... And we didn't see that. And I'm really disappointed.

Taly Goody (45:44):
Were we vegan at that time?

Mauro Fiore (45:45):
It's called Cinnamon Works.

Bob Simon (45:46):
Do they have any bear claws?

Greyson Goody (45:51):
I don't think we were vegan at the time.

Mauro Fiore (45:51):
We're talking about bears?

Bob Simon (45:51):
Yeah. Bear claws.

Mauro Fiore (45:51):
So yeah, Cinnamon Works.

Bob Simon (45:53):
He's more of an otter. Well, anyway, so we're going to pick your Bourbon of Proof. We always say, what is it? We've tried four different, we went across the world for this one, we went to Scotland, we went to Japan, we went to Sonoma NorCal...

Taly Goody (46:01):
To Yellowstone.

Greyson Goody (46:01):
To Yellowstone.

Bob Simon (46:01):
... And we went to Yellowstone.

Mauro Fiore (46:02):
We went to Wyoming,

Greyson Goody (46:06):
Idaho, Wyoming, Montana.

Bob Simon (46:08):
Idaho? Udaho. Always wearing a New Jersey. So what was your Bourbon of Proof? What was your favorite one?

Taly Goody (46:16):
The Yellowstone one.

Bob Simon (46:19):
Really?

Greyson Goody (46:19):
I have to agree.

Taly Goody (46:19):
Surprisingly, it was really good.

Mauro Fiore (46:19):
Very smooth. [inaudible 00:46:20].

Taly Goody (46:19):
Thank you for bringing that.

Greyson Goody (46:21):
Very smooth. In fact, can I have another pour of the Yellowstone?

Taly Goody (46:25):
Me too.

Bob Simon (46:25):
Yeah. So we're going end this on a [inaudible 00:46:26].

Taly Goody (46:25):
I know we all want another pour.

Mauro Fiore (46:26):
[inaudible 00:46:27].

Bob Simon (46:27):
You're going to pour.

Taly Goody (46:28):
I mean, I'm very disappointed by the Macallan, I'm not going to lie. I know this is all about what we like, but I was disappointed by that.

Bob Simon (46:34):
Well, you drank a whole bottle of 18 this weekend, we heard the story.

Taly Goody (46:37):
We did drink a whole bottle of 18. Yeah.

Bob Simon (46:39):
And the doctor [inaudible 00:46:41] out on a wheelchair.

Taly Goody (46:42):
You know what it is? It is like when you like...

Bob Simon (46:43):
I think it ruined your Macallan palate by drinking an entire bottle of 18.

Taly Goody (46:45):
I think that's probably what happened. Jesus. Yeah. It might

Mauro Fiore (46:48):
Have. I have a friend of mine who's a wine collector, but like a serious wine collector. I'm talking his wine cellar's worth a million bucks. And you, he always says the best wine is the one he like. Mad

Bob Simon (46:58):
Dad. 44.

Greyson Goody (47:03):
That's it.

Taly Goody (47:03):
Well, thanks for having us. I know we're wrapping it up.

Mauro Fiore (47:04):
The best wine is the one you like. The best bourbon is the one you like. I like this one.

Bob Simon (47:07):
You always find the thing the last place you look, because you stop looking after you find it.

Taly Goody (47:10):
But it's good. It's just so smooth. I've never had a bourbon this smooth before.

Greyson Goody (47:12):
Yeah. Very smooth.

Bob Simon (47:14):
Well, it's barely registers as a bourbon, because it's like 95 Proof.

Taly Goody (47:17):
But that's a lot. I only have 45 Proof, usually when I drink.

Bob Simon (47:20):
No, you're 45%, that's 90 Proof.

Mauro Fiore (47:23):
This is?

Greyson Goody (47:24):
Yeah. Macallans [inaudible 00:47:25].

Mauro Fiore (47:24):
Gallons is a little bit less. It is the same amount of Grand

BB (47:29):
Primatic. So we were drinking at your house as Sonoma one 10, right? The first one. That was like

B (47:35):
One proof dumbed out. That was too much

BB (47:35):
Grand prismatic. Well guys, thank you. That only at the Grand Prismatic gift shot.

Greyson Goody (47:40):
I was like, am I functioning? Oh, that's right. Remember, remember that? Go talk to somebody.

(47:45):
And then Greyson got on the drum set. we play.

(47:49):
That was like, oh, you were banging on the skins. That was fun. I was banging the skins. Yeah. Played on drums.

(47:52):
Drums sing. He plays. What was the song that you did for the Justice Team? Podcast?

(47:58):
Expert Shopping. Oh,

(47:59):
Expert Shopping. Expert Shopping. I did hear that's, here's take us out with this. Da da.

(48:07):
Wait, wait. What's the It's a real, real big Fish. And take

(48:10):
All your money. Play what you want us to hear. I just can't leave it.

(48:16):
Sell out with me. Oh yeah. Sell out with me too. Tonight the expert going to take all your money and everything is going to feel all right.

(48:28):
How are we going to find that

(48:28):
thank you guys.