To friends, to family, to working hard

The May Firm Brothers

HOST Bob Simon
CO-HOST Mauro Fiore
FEATURED SPIRITS Mystery Rye Blend, A Midwinter Night's Dram, Bushmills 21
DATE 3 November 2023

About This Episode

Bourbon of Proof is back with brothers Robert, Garrett, and Cameron May for a spirited journey through their lives and the inception of the May Firm. The May brother's upbringing in Santa Maria, founded by Robert May, instilled the core principles of compassion and hard work, the basis of their firm's values. From lively discussions about their unique Christmas tradition involving a mysterious bottle of "Rye Rye Blend" whiskey, which High West whiskey is their favorite, and debating the merits of soup as a meal, this episode is an engaging blend of whiskey, wit, and warmth.

Robert May, The May Firm

Garrett May, The May Firm

Cameron May, The May Firm

Transcript

Robert May (00:00:00):
I've signed up cases and places, it's so dangerous. I would text a photo of the address and be like, "Call me in an hour."

Garrett May (00:00:06):
"In case I disappear." Yeah, absolutely.

(00:00:20):
Everyone wants the quick fix or the secret sauce. There's no secret sauce. Get out there. Work your tail off until, I mean if you ask someone 12 years ago, "What's The May Firm?" No one would've known. And now, not everyone knows, but a lot of people-

Robert May (00:00:34):
No, our parents know.

Bob Simon (00:00:34):
People that know you.

Garrett May (00:00:34):
Your parents know?

Cameron May (00:00:35):
Our parents do know.

Bob Simon (00:00:41):
Welcome to this episode of Bourbon of Proof, where we interview those who have been successful at law and life and today we're very, very honored to have the brothers of The May Firm. Before we get started, we want to thank our very gracious hosts, the Bike Shed and especially Charles Lewin, [inaudible 00:00:57] Tommy Hardy. We're at his personal bar where we'll be having a conversation here today. So guys, we're going to kick this off with a really something kind of spicy and so every Christmas we do this big whiskey exchange and people just send a lot of whiskey to my house and I send a lot of whiskey out. Well, this year I got a bottle, I got a lot of anonymous bottles. People just don't put things on the label. I got this anonymous bottle, which is a printout label that says rye blend.

Mauro Fiore (00:01:21):
And you don't know who sent it?

Bob Simon (00:01:24):
I don't know who sent it. There was no note. It might kill us.

Cameron May (00:01:27):
We may go blind.

Bob Simon (00:01:28):
We may.

(00:01:28):
But if we're going to do it, we'll do it together.

Mauro Fiore (00:01:34):
I volunteer Rob definitely.

Bob Simon (00:01:36):
If we're going to do it together-

Garrett May (00:01:37):
I agree.

Bob Simon (00:01:39):
... This is like the scene from Princess Bride.

Mauro Fiore (00:01:43):
Yes. Oh, man.

Bob Simon (00:01:44):
So as we do this as an assembly line.

Mauro Fiore (00:01:46):
And let me guess, it came-

Bob Simon (00:01:47):
I'll pour you a dish out. I'm not going to pour a lot of this because it might-

Mauro Fiore (00:01:51):
Let me guess it came in a brown box with no return-

Bob Simon (00:01:55):
No, it was actually very well packaged. It was not hand delivered. So it went through the mail.

Robert May (00:02:01):
That was my next question.

Bob Simon (00:02:02):
Here you go.

Garrett May (00:02:03):
It's still questionable I think.

Cameron May (00:02:05):
It smells good.

Bob Simon (00:02:06):
So the May brothers coming to us from the Central Coast and the office is all over California and dominate the legal space. Thank you gentlemen for coming. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers.

Robert May (00:02:15):
Cheers.

Bob Simon (00:02:15):
We don't have to do the whole cheers.

Cameron May (00:02:16):
Thank you for having us.

Robert May (00:02:18):
Anytime we get to see Mauro, I'd like to have a cheers. It's a celebration.

Mauro Fiore (00:02:22):
Thank you very much.

Robert May (00:02:23):
All right. To losing our eyesight to this.

Mauro Fiore (00:02:24):
How nice of you to say that.

Robert May (00:02:30):
So what do we think of the rye, the anonymous rye blend? unanimous rye blend?

Cameron May (00:02:32):
It's good. It's delicious.

Mauro Fiore (00:02:34):
It kind of hits you a little hard at the beginning, but it finishes better.

Cameron May (00:02:37):
It's good.

Garrett May (00:02:38):
Good news for you, Mauro, you don't have to use that second pair of pants you brought.

Bob Simon (00:02:42):
Well, we don't know yet. It takes time to settle.

Robert May (00:02:43):
It's still, it's fantastic.

Garrett May (00:02:45):
It's quite good.

Mauro Fiore (00:02:46):
We're only two. I'm like a 3-year-old, I carry a backpack with a change of clothes everywhere I go.

Bob Simon (00:02:50):
So whoever sent this rye, anonymous rye blend-

Cameron May (00:02:52):
I think it was in your kids' backpack.

Bob Simon (00:02:53):
If you're a fan of the show, let us know. Take credit for this,

Robert May (00:02:57):
Unabomber, we appreciate it.

Garrett May (00:02:59):
Do we need to have a postscript on this rye? Because it may be good now and bad later.

Mauro Fiore (00:03:02):
I like it.

Robert May (00:03:05):
Wait, I just want to say something. These are all my favorite dudes in one setting. I've been looking forward to this.

Bob Simon (00:03:13):
Wow.

Robert May (00:03:13):
I love seeing Bob. Mauro's a straight-up treat. Obviously I love these guys. This is a great day already.

Bob Simon (00:03:20):
Because we had a lot of trips with Rob May, Mauro and I. Mauro sleeps through 95% of it, but he's up for the 5%. That's really fun.

Mauro Fiore (00:03:28):
Bob, I did speak at the CAALA Convention last weekend in Vegas and I did fall asleep up on the whatever they got on the stage after I spoke during, I was going to mention her name, but I won't. And I woke up, I was like, "God damn it, I hope Bob wasn't in here." Taking a picture because he seem to always show up when I fall, right when I fall asleep.

Bob Simon (00:03:49):
Well, people started sending me photos of him.

Mauro Fiore (00:03:50):
I'm going to hear some shit about this one.

Bob Simon (00:03:51):
Somebody said they were trying a case with you and it's phenomenal. Mauro walks in five minutes late, just owns the courtroom. And then we're waiting for a call for the jury, he's like, and the fucking guy's asleep at counsel table. He's like, "I can't believe it's actually true." He's like, "He kicks him, he wakes up and starts picking a jury."

Mauro Fiore (00:04:06):
Yeah, well it's just resting my eyes.

Robert May (00:04:08):
You get so much, your brain must be so healthy with the amount of rest you get. It's supernatural still.

Garrett May (00:04:16):
He's an innovator with the frequent power naps.

Bob Simon (00:04:18):
Yes. So for people that are listening and not viewing, that don't have the, well, they have some curiosity if they're just listening, but they can't see the handsome faces that we have here today. So we have Garrett May. Garrett, why don't you say hello to everybody for people to-

Garrett May (00:04:33):
Hello, everyone. Are we doing the thing where we give our measurements?

Mauro Fiore (00:04:36):
Yeah.

Garrett May (00:04:37):
Are we going to do that?

Bob Simon (00:04:37):
13 and a half shoe, right? Is that it?

Garrett May (00:04:39):
13 shoe, 6'3, 260. But it's going in the right direction. It's going down.

Bob Simon (00:04:43):
What's your [inaudible 00:04:45]?

Garrett May (00:04:45):
[Inaudible 00:11:30] mid-eights. I'm going to guess. I have a bad knee. I can't run.

Mauro Fiore (00:04:51):
Garrett's wearing a handsome Malbon golf sweater.

Garrett May (00:04:54):
Thank you.

Robert May (00:04:54):
Yes. Shoutout Malbon.

Mauro Fiore (00:04:54):
Limited edition.

Garrett May (00:04:56):
Limited edition.

Cameron May (00:04:57):
Vertical to be desired.

Garrett May (00:04:58):
Big boy sizes.

Cameron May (00:04:58):
Now we know you didn't pick that out.

Garrett May (00:05:00):
Correct. Correct. This was a gift from our mutual friend, Theresa.

Cameron May (00:05:05):
She's the genius.

Garrett May (00:05:06):
She's taken to dressing me.

Robert May (00:05:08):
The actual genius.

Cameron May (00:05:09):
She gets it.

Garrett May (00:05:09):
Yeah, she does.

Robert May (00:05:10):
She had to step in.

Garrett May (00:05:11):
Yeah.

Bob Simon (00:05:11):
So she's the CEO of The May Firm and also make sure you don't look like a fool?

Robert May (00:05:15):
Correct.

Garrett May (00:05:15):
Correct. Nailed it.

Robert May (00:05:17):
You could call it the same thing.

Garrett May (00:05:18):
Yes.

Bob Simon (00:05:18):
And we have Cameron May over here.

Cameron May (00:05:21):
Yeah, nice to meet everyone.

Bob Simon (00:05:23):
What's your sizes dude? I thought you-

Cameron May (00:05:25):
6'1, 220. Maybe going to break five-

Bob Simon (00:05:30):
Really?

Cameron May (00:05:30):
... But probably a five one.

Garrett May (00:05:34):
I believe it.

Bob Simon (00:05:34):
[Inaudible 00:05:35].

Garrett May (00:05:34):
I believe it.

Cameron May (00:05:35):
Yeah, we did a four at 225 last week, no big deal.

Bob Simon (00:05:42):
What?

Cameron May (00:05:42):
Put it up.

Bob Simon (00:05:43):
Yeah, you did four 225 plates.

Cameron May (00:05:47):
Yeah.

Bob Simon (00:05:47):
Two plates?

Cameron May (00:05:47):
Yeah, two plates.

Bob Simon (00:05:49):
That's kind of weak, but okay.

Cameron May (00:05:52):
I'm not in the gym all the time.

Robert May (00:05:55):
He's got supernatural power. If he gets his paws on you, it's like a bear has attacked you.

Bob Simon (00:06:01):
Is that right?

Garrett May (00:06:02):
Yeah.

Bob Simon (00:06:02):
And of course-

Robert May (00:06:03):
You know what I'm talking about.

Cameron May (00:06:03):
This guy gets it?

Bob Simon (00:06:05):
Well before we have our co-host, Mauro Fiore. Mauro, thank you as always.

Robert May (00:06:08):
The best.

Mauro Fiore (00:06:09):
I'm always delighted to be back as your most esteemed co-host.

Bob Simon (00:06:13):
Most esteemed. Still the most viewed of all of our shows. Today we'll see-

Garrett May (00:06:15):
He's sort of the Andy Richter of the Bourbon of Proof.

Bob Simon (00:06:18):
He also is big on the Richter scale.

Robert May (00:06:20):
He is. He's a double Richter.

Mauro Fiore (00:06:23):
If I jumped off of this stool, it'd be on the Richter scale.

Robert May (00:06:26):
That's my guy.

Mauro Fiore (00:06:28):
My measurements are undisclosed by the way.

Robert May (00:06:30):
Oh, that's very discreet. I like that.

Mauro Fiore (00:06:32):
I like it.

Cameron May (00:06:33):
Mr. Discretion.

Mauro Fiore (00:06:34):
I'm just a big dude.

Robert May (00:06:35):
Mr. Discretion.

Bob Simon (00:06:37):
Last and certainly not least is Rob May.

Robert May (00:06:39):
Faking six foot-

Bob Simon (00:06:41):
You're six feet.

Cameron May (00:06:42):
No, he's not.

Robert May (00:06:42):
Thank you, buddy.

Bob Simon (00:06:43):
Yes he is.

Robert May (00:06:43):
Shout out six feet. 162-

Cameron May (00:06:47):
On Mars.

Robert May (00:06:50):
I'd say like 4440, definitely fastest brother by far. No questions. Still got, hands up, we could do a race after this.

Cameron May (00:06:57):
Yes please.

Bob Simon (00:06:58):
All right, we'll race. We'll do pushup comp and race.

Robert May (00:07:00):
It's more of a racer.

Bob Simon (00:07:02):
More of a racer. So tell us for our guests, I think you guys were founded 2012 thereabouts?

Robert May (00:07:06):
Yeah, 2012.

Bob Simon (00:07:08):
So you guys are 10, 11 years old.

Garrett May (00:07:10):
Yeah.

Bob Simon (00:07:10):
All grows up. So did you guys start the firm together? How did that go down?

Robert May (00:07:13):
We did. We started the firm together. Hal went down as sort of a complicated story, but within a matter of a short period of time, we knew we had to make some decisions and we basically had a few cases. We had an existing office because I had split up with a previous partner, still good friend. We didn't have a lot other than that, other than one another, I sold my house, moved into an apartment.

Garrett May (00:07:46):
I've been a lawyer maybe nine months.

Cameron May (00:07:50):
I was living above a garage.

Garrett May (00:07:52):
My wife was pregnant with our first-

Bob Simon (00:07:54):
Still?

Cameron May (00:07:54):
Still have the spot. In case anyone wants to step-

Robert May (00:07:56):
Wait. The better part of... The rest of that garage is who lived below you?

Cameron May (00:08:00):
Oh, it was a sorority house.

Mauro Fiore (00:08:04):
Oh, is it still available?

Cameron May (00:08:05):
Poor me

Bob Simon (00:08:06):
So you're big into the Greek alphabet?

Cameron May (00:08:10):
Yeah. Yeah.

Garrett May (00:08:10):
It was all of them.

Cameron May (00:08:10):
Always.

Robert May (00:08:11):
He never pledged but he's still a member.

Bob Simon (00:08:14):
Honorary member.

Robert May (00:08:15):
Honorary.

Garrett May (00:08:16):
Yeah. That was a wild time. That was a wild time.

Robert May (00:08:18):
Yeah, it was.

Bob Simon (00:08:19):
This was 2012 so I mean you guys were literally starving lawyers starting your own practice.

Garrett May (00:08:22):
Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Bob Simon (00:08:23):
See, people always think that you just started your practice you had money. Daddy and mommy had money.

Garrett May (00:08:28):
No.

Robert May (00:08:28):
No.

Cameron May (00:08:29):
Opposite.

Robert May (00:08:30):
Opposite. Yeah, we have nobody in our family's in the legal space. My dad's a concrete salesman. So kind of similar to your dad, Bob, and your dad's a professional driver. My dad was a guy who was at concrete plants every day trying to sell cement and bid new jobs and so pretty blue collar, I mean completely blue collar.

Garrett May (00:08:51):
Absolutely.

Cameron May (00:08:52):
Woke up at 3:00 AM delivered papers.

Bob Simon (00:08:55):
Nice.

Garrett May (00:08:55):
He had two or three jobs. [Inaudible 00:08:58].

Bob Simon (00:08:59):
Who does most of the intake talking to clients. Do you guys split it or who's usually more hands-on with clients?

Garrett May (00:09:05):
I would say Rob is probably the most hands-on with intake?

Cameron May (00:09:08):
Yeah.

Robert May (00:09:08):
Probably. Yeah, probably, but-

Cameron May (00:09:10):
At this juncture, probably when we started, I would say you, quite a lot-

Garrett May (00:09:13):
When we started it was way more me-

Cameron May (00:09:15):
And that's really where you started was in intake at our previous firm.

Bob Simon (00:09:19):
But you do a lot of litigation now.

Cameron May (00:09:20):
We all work that.

Garrett May (00:09:20):
I do now.

Robert May (00:09:21):
Exclusively.

Garrett May (00:09:22):
When I was in law school, so my third semester of law school, I started working with Rob as an unpaid intern.

Bob Simon (00:09:33):
You son of a bitch. Come on.

Robert May (00:09:33):
I'm the meanest older. I'm such a nice brother now.

Bob Simon (00:09:36):
Oh, yeah. So tell everybody what's the age difference in the estates men here?

Robert May (00:09:40):
So there's 10 years between us, so I'm 45, 35, 40. So growing up we were-

Bob Simon (00:09:48):
Every five years.

Robert May (00:09:49):
Yeah. So you have a twin brother you were really close with and we were in different worlds when we were kids.

Bob Simon (00:09:55):
We'll finish up this next one because, well, I'm going to pour this, so Cam, why don't you tell us about this bottle you brought, because I want to segue into your story.

Cameron May (00:10:05):
So this is Midwinters Night Dram, out of High West Distillery in Park City, so-

Bob Simon (00:10:12):
Show it to the camera, dude.

Cameron May (00:10:14):
I love this distillery. I think it's the absolute best and I think they come out with a new act every year in October and our parents who live in Utah, when it comes out, I have my dad go up there and pick me up a case. So this is part of.

Robert May (00:10:33):
It's a Shakespeare [inaudible 00:10:36].

Bob Simon (00:10:35):
Yes, so it's a Shakespearean, but-

Cameron May (00:10:37):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Bob Simon (00:10:38):
So this is one where they take the rye whiskey and then they-

Cameron May (00:10:40):
It's a blend. So it's a rye blend.

Bob Simon (00:10:42):
But the last six months they finish it and something else like a port barrel I think?

Cameron May (00:10:47):
You know what? I'm not a-

Bob Simon (00:10:47):
Come on, man.

Mauro Fiore (00:10:49):
It looks pretty dark.

Cameron May (00:10:50):
It is dark.

Bob Simon (00:10:50):
This is nice.

Cameron May (00:10:50):
It is. It is-

Mauro Fiore (00:10:53):
It has some kind of finish.

Garrett May (00:10:53):
It has a sweet finish.

Mauro Fiore (00:10:53):
Have you been to that distillery?

Cameron May (00:10:54):
I have. Yeah.

Mauro Fiore (00:10:57):
I've been on that distillery tour with Bob.

Cameron May (00:10:57):
Yeah, it's an amazing place.

Bob Simon (00:10:59):
I always tell people but they tell me, "Oh, I don't like whiskey, I don't like it."

Cameron May (00:11:02):
Can I?

Bob Simon (00:11:03):
I started out with this bottle and they're like, "Holy shit, this is amazing."

Garrett May (00:11:06):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Cameron May (00:11:06):
I always have this one like I hand it home.

Bob Simon (00:11:09):
So there's like, I think they're up to 10 acts now or 10 different years?

Cameron May (00:11:14):
I think this last year was 10.

Bob Simon (00:11:15):
10.

Cameron May (00:11:15):
This is nine.

Bob Simon (00:11:16):
So that's act nine.

Cameron May (00:11:17):
Yeah.

Bob Simon (00:11:18):
So the year was... So act one-

Robert May (00:11:20):
We'll finish that.

Bob Simon (00:11:21):
I think they say Act 4 was the best barrel they ever did like scene... There's people that collect all these-

Cameron May (00:11:26):
Act 4 is...

Bob Simon (00:11:28):
I think so. I think it's like Act 4 Scene 3, it was the hardest one to find now.

Mauro Fiore (00:11:32):
It's like the Blanton's bottle talk-

Bob Simon (00:11:34):
Yeah, but they do this once a year and it's limited, so they will release this at a BevMo.

Mauro Fiore (00:11:38):
It's like the wood for-

Bob Simon (00:11:40):
For like a 150 bucks or a hundred bucks. But it goes... If you don't get, oh.

Cameron May (00:11:44):
It's 300 [inaudible 00:11:46]. Yeah, we are out in-

Bob Simon (00:11:48):
Thank you sir.

Cameron May (00:11:48):
... At the groceries.

Mauro Fiore (00:11:49):
I want as much as you gave him or Bob won't make it to the next show.

Cameron May (00:11:51):
Got it.

Robert May (00:11:54):
Double down.

Bob Simon (00:11:55):
I'll be fine.

Cameron May (00:11:56):
We are in Paso Robles at the grocery store and I saw a bottle of this. It was for 300 where I think at the distillery, I think it's 90.

Bob Simon (00:12:05):
Yeah.

Garrett May (00:12:06):
Yeah. I still have a bottle left from that Act. It's great. It's got the spicy notes of a rye, but then there's a sweet finish, so if you... I treat it like a dessert whiskey, I'll eat it with cookies. I'm not even kidding.

Bob Simon (00:12:22):
Mauro, what's the proof on there? Because it's still high proof but it's-

Cameron May (00:12:24):
I think it's 95.

Bob Simon (00:12:26):
Yeah, it's high enough but it's like a [inaudible 00:12:29]

Mauro Fiore (00:12:29):
Act 9 Scene 1.

Bob Simon (00:12:30):
Scene 1 so it's the first one they pulled from the barrel.

Garrett May (00:12:32):
It's delicious.

Bob Simon (00:12:33):
Fantastic.

Mauro Fiore (00:12:34):
So you eat it with cookies?

Garrett May (00:12:35):
I totally do. Like an oatmeal cookie or a Fig Newton.

Bob Simon (00:12:37):
Bro.

Garrett May (00:12:38):
Did after.

Bob Simon (00:12:39):
[Inaudible 00:12:39] what was your Little Debbie's favorite? Do you guys have... Because mine was oatmeal pie. I would eat those everyday.

Garrett May (00:12:42):
Oatmeal pie.

Robert May (00:12:43):
Oatmeal pie.

Garrett May (00:12:43):
Was? Why are you saying-

Bob Simon (00:12:44):
I'm still [inaudible 00:12:45].

Garrett May (00:12:44):
It's so past-

Bob Simon (00:12:46):
No, I was just saying he was in my lunch every day growing.

Garrett May (00:12:48):
It's so paste tense, the Little Debbie.

Robert May (00:12:49):
We never had packed lunches, but I bought those a week ago. If I go to Target and pass those, I can't not buy them and then eat them-

Bob Simon (00:12:56):
This is fantastic.

Mauro Fiore (00:12:57):
My mom always put the zebra cakes in my lunch.

Robert May (00:12:59):
Your mom loved you so much-

Bob Simon (00:12:59):
Oh, I didn't like those.

Cameron May (00:13:02):
Oh my gosh. Somebody loved you for sure.

Robert May (00:13:04):
You could look at his confidence. He's so indulged.

Mauro Fiore (00:13:07):
Zebra cake. My mom really did it though because... God bless her soul.

Cameron May (00:13:10):
She sounds like a doll.

Garrett May (00:13:11):
She packed you too, didn't she?

Mauro Fiore (00:13:12):
For sure.

Bob Simon (00:13:13):
I will trade.

Mauro Fiore (00:13:14):
One to trade.

Bob Simon (00:13:14):
Yeah.

Garrett May (00:13:14):
I will always, one to eat and one to trade in case your buddy had a oatmeal or...

Bob Simon (00:13:19):
I was big into trading a handy snack for half of this, a fried pepperoni and cheese sandwich and I would trade a handy stack like the little cheese nipping things. Oh...

Mauro Fiore (00:13:28):
You know what-

Garrett May (00:13:29):
With the red stick?

Bob Simon (00:13:29):
Yeah.

Mauro Fiore (00:13:30):
... I saw one of those the other day and they don't put the little red stick in there anymore to spread the cheese on the crackers. Remember it had a little red stick?

Robert May (00:13:35):
I know exactly what you're talking about.

Mauro Fiore (00:13:36):
They don't put that in there anymore. You have to just dig it out with the cracker.

Garrett May (00:13:41):
The tensile strength of the cracker is not sufficient.

Bob Simon (00:13:45):
But there was a form you had to go this way, that way, this way and then the middle for all four. You had to get all four.

Cameron May (00:13:50):
You got to get all the corners.

Robert May (00:13:52):
[Inaudible 00:13:53], scratching it out, scratching it out.

Garrett May (00:13:55):
We may be aging ourselves.

Robert May (00:13:56):
I feel like in the eighties that was like gold. The cheese.

Bob Simon (00:13:58):
Eighties?

Robert May (00:13:59):
I was older.

Mauro Fiore (00:14:01):
But you know what, to get back a little more on Garrett's topic of being starving lawyers and starting the firm, right? I think that one of the, you hear so many different sayings and memes and shit online and everything now, but the ones that always resonate with me are people always talking about, "You can't really appreciate being successful unless you really truly have been broke." And I believe that.

Garrett May (00:14:24):
Oh my gosh.

Mauro Fiore (00:14:25):
You know what I mean? Because I really appreciate being successful because I've been fucking broke. But the people that have given everything, it's more difficult, I think for them to achieve more than where they came from. If you came from a rich family and you go out and you become successful, but it's just you were predestined. Right? And it was kind of given to you.

Cameron May (00:14:47):
It's the ovarian lottery?

Mauro Fiore (00:14:49):
Yeah. It's like nothing's ever been given to anybody in this room.

Garrett May (00:14:52):
My wife was reminding me the other day that when she was in the hospital with our first, Georgia, who's 11, she said, "We had $850 in the bank." That was all we had. We had nothing else. I had a couple, I mean I was working on-

Cameron May (00:15:05):
And maybe insurance?

Garrett May (00:15:07):
I had health insurance, thank God, and we had 850 bucks. I forgot because I push out bad memories like a psychopath. But she said that's what we have.

Bob Simon (00:15:17):
Well, how many offices do you guys have now? That start with just one.

Robert May (00:15:20):
Now we have eight.

Bob Simon (00:15:22):
Eight, wow.

Robert May (00:15:23):
Yeah.

Garrett May (00:15:23):
Yeah. So it's been, the last 11, 12 years have been, they're a grind and there's not... People ask like, "Oh, how does it happen?" There's no secret sauce. Pound the pavement. I remember packing bottles of wine and business cards and into my car and driving to every chiropractor office within a hundred miles-

Cameron May (00:15:47):
I remember staying till-

Garrett May (00:15:48):
... Just trying to meet someone who might send us-

Cameron May (00:15:49):
... One or two in the morning writing blog posts.

Garrett May (00:15:52):
Yeah.

Robert May (00:15:53):
I've driven to places I would send-

Bob Simon (00:15:54):
I still do this shit, man.

Cameron May (00:15:56):
One or two in the morning, blog posts.

Robert May (00:15:57):
I've signed up cases and places so dangerous. I would text a photo of the address and be like, "Call me in an hour."

Garrett May (00:16:04):
"In case I disappear." Yeah, absolutely.

Robert May (00:16:06):
Yeah.

Bob Simon (00:16:06):
If anybody's watching or listening, go to Mauro's episode to find out the most dangerous story ever of trying to get a witness information going down to Mexico where you almost died.

Cameron May (00:16:15):
Oh, I listened to that. That was a great episode.

Bob Simon (00:16:16):
Oh my God.

Cameron May (00:16:17):
Number one episode.

Bob Simon (00:16:17):
Number one episode.

Garrett May (00:16:18):
Number one episode.

Robert May (00:16:19):
Is he a serial killer?

Mauro Fiore (00:16:19):
Yeah.

Bob Simon (00:16:19):
That was a serial killer.

Robert May (00:16:21):
Incredible. Mauro...

Mauro Fiore (00:16:22):
I had a fucking rough day, man. I came up on that witness, man. I said, "We're going to go the old school way. If you don't have a witness, use their witness." We're going to do...

Garrett May (00:16:35):
Everyone wants the quick fix or the secret sauce. There's no secret sauce. Get out there. Work your tail off until, I mean if you ask someone 12 years ago, what's The May Firm? No one would've known. And now not everyone knows, but a lot of people know.

Robert May (00:16:49):
No, our parents know.

Bob Simon (00:16:49):
People that know you.

Garrett May (00:16:49):
Our parents know.

Cameron May (00:16:49):
Our parents do know.

Garrett May (00:16:52):
Rob put our name on a lot of hats.

Robert May (00:16:55):
I put our name on everything.

Garrett May (00:16:57):
Everything.

Bob Simon (00:16:58):
But that works. I mean subtle branding and my family all wears it. I have my cousins back East [inaudible 00:17:03].

Robert May (00:17:02):
Your dad only wears Justice team gear.

Bob Simon (00:17:05):
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Or my dad only wears free shit. Let's be honest.

Cameron May (00:17:09):
Travis Matthews Justice Team. That is the sweet spot. Right?

Garrett May (00:17:13):
That's what I said, it's a sweet spot.

Robert May (00:17:14):
Your dad is the absolute best.

Bob Simon (00:17:16):
He's the best [inaudible 00:17:17] ever.

Garrett May (00:17:17):
You know what I love about your dad is that he reminds me of my dad if my dad drank. My dad's stone-cold sober but there's that sort of...

Robert May (00:17:25):
Gentil-

Garrett May (00:17:25):
Gritty.

Robert May (00:17:26):
Kindness.

Garrett May (00:17:27):
Kindness.

Bob Simon (00:17:28):
I mean you guys, were all of you sober for period of time for being in the church?

Garrett May (00:17:34):
Yeah, yeah.

Robert May (00:17:34):
So we grew up Mormon.

Bob Simon (00:17:36):
When did you actually start drinking?

Mauro Fiore (00:17:37):
Shout out Joseph Smith.

Bob Simon (00:17:39):
Joe Smith, the OG.

Garrett May (00:17:41):
He is the OG.

Robert May (00:17:42):
We just lost our Mormon demographic.

Garrett May (00:17:43):
Oh, yeah. Everyone at BYU Law School just turned off the podcast.

Bob Simon (00:17:45):
We had a lot of Mormons on this show actually. Jacob Norman's been on. We had a [inaudible 00:17:50] Fisher.

Garrett May (00:17:50):
Yeah. We don't have a lot of resentment towards Mormonism, but I probably didn't, I left shortly after my daughter was born and shortly after the firm was founded, so.

Cameron May (00:18:00):
When I was 12.

Bob Simon (00:18:03):
You were 12. That's right. You were 10 years younger.

Robert May (00:18:05):
But he was ahead of the curve. When He was 12. He was like, "No. I'm out."

Cameron May (00:18:08):
Not for me.

Bob Simon (00:18:09):
Ou, You left the church at 12?

Garrett May (00:18:10):
Yeah, probably.

Bob Simon (00:18:11):
Wow.

Garrett May (00:18:11):
12, 13. Yeah. He was-

Bob Simon (00:18:12):
But when they started the firm though, you had to have been a late teenager at least, right? Early twenties?

Cameron May (00:18:17):
When the firm started?

Bob Simon (00:18:18):
Yeah.

Cameron May (00:18:18):
I was in college.

Garrett May (00:18:19):
He was at Cal Poly.

Cameron May (00:18:21):
Yeah.

Garrett May (00:18:21):
It's good to have some athletic genes mixed in with the May genes.

Robert May (00:18:24):
Yeah. No kidding, right? I mean what garbage athletes we all are?

Garrett May (00:18:28):
Terrible.

Mauro Fiore (00:18:28):
But decent golfers though.

Cameron May (00:18:31):
It's all relative.

Robert May (00:18:32):
Well, thank you so much.

Garrett May (00:18:33):
I'm good enough-

Robert May (00:18:36):
That's nicest thing I've ever heard you say.

Mauro Fiore (00:18:38):
Well, yeah.

Garrett May (00:18:40):
Good enough not to embarrass yourself. Not so good that your friends don't like-

Mauro Fiore (00:18:41):
Yes, good enough not to embarrass yourself.

Garrett May (00:18:41):
... Playing with you.

Bob Simon (00:18:44):
Speaking golfing. I'm very excited to go to Scotland with you.

Robert May (00:18:47):
Wait, wait, wait.

Cameron May (00:18:48):
Whoa, whoa, whoa.

Bob Simon (00:18:49):
Well, let's transition.

Garrett May (00:18:53):
What a segue.

Bob Simon (00:18:53):
See, well this is why we're good hostess, right? Right, Mauro?

Robert May (00:18:55):
The best.

Bob Simon (00:18:55):
So the May brothers are phenomenal golfers. They take golf trips. They're actually golfing with my dad and brothers tomorrow so I hear.

Garrett May (00:19:03):
Yes, we are.

Bob Simon (00:19:03):
By the way, my dad, when you finally guys were in town, he's like, "The May brothers are in town." He's like, "Can they come over to my house and we could drink whiskey all day and play cards?" I'm like, "We're actually drinking whiskey on a show, Dad."

Cameron May (00:19:11):
"But you can come."

Bob Simon (00:19:12):
But yes.

Garrett May (00:19:13):
Absolutely.

Bob Simon (00:19:13):
He was going to come, but he had better things to do like write checks at the office. All right. So anyway, this is a Bushmills 21 years single malt. I've never had this-

Robert May (00:19:20):
Oh, 21 years, almost as long as Garrett's been married.

Bob Simon (00:19:27):
I learned the other day that an average marriage last 12 years.

Garrett May (00:19:31):
We crushed that.

Bob Simon (00:19:32):
Yeah, I'm over that too. But I thought about it. I was like, "Wait, where's this statistic come from?" Because people get married then they die. Right? I mean, that's...

Robert May (00:19:39):
Club feels wrong.

Bob Simon (00:19:40):
Yeah, but it could be skewed.

Robert May (00:19:41):
Totally.

Bob Simon (00:19:41):
People could be married at 70, people could be getting married and then guy gets hit by a truck.

Robert May (00:19:46):
You can get married when you're 20.

Mauro Fiore (00:19:47):
My wife's been married for seven years.

Garrett May (00:19:49):
To you?

Cameron May (00:19:53):
She sounds like a lucky lady.

Mauro Fiore (00:19:54):
She's married.

Garrett May (00:19:55):
She's married.

Mauro Fiore (00:19:56):
Yeah, she's married. I'm married too, I guess.

Garrett May (00:19:58):
Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's generally a two-person contract. It's not always.

Mauro Fiore (00:20:02):
She doesn't watch or listen to this [inaudible 00:20:05]. I can say anything.

Robert May (00:20:05):
I feel like, well, Alex is, what an amazing woman.

Mauro Fiore (00:20:10):
Alex is my wife.

Robert May (00:20:11):
Very patient. She's so fantastic.

Garrett May (00:20:13):
I was going to say she must be, I've never met her.

Bob Simon (00:20:14):
She's a saint.

Robert May (00:20:15):
She's like a saint.

Garrett May (00:20:16):
She's beautiful.

Robert May (00:20:17):
But like a wild saint.

Garrett May (00:20:17):
She must be the most patient human being alive.

Robert May (00:20:20):
Yes, for sure.

Garrett May (00:20:22):
On average, how many times a day does she wakes you up?

Cameron May (00:20:25):
So nice and insulting.

Mauro Fiore (00:20:26):
I'm not home that much, but when I go home I like to go straight to sleep usually, so.

Cameron May (00:20:31):
I thought you were going in a different direction.

Mauro Fiore (00:20:32):
No, I'm I'm like Bob. Bob knows if you text me after 9:00 you're getting a response at 4:30 in the morning. You know what I mean? I got to bed at 8:30.

Cameron May (00:20:43):
8:30 to 4:00?

Mauro Fiore (00:20:43):
Yes.

Robert May (00:20:44):
But I heard Alex at a dinner that we were at this summer, say tomorrow, while he was completely asleep, "You promised me you wouldn't do this."

Mauro Fiore (00:20:56):
Yeah, she'd gets so angry. It was like, "I'm not doing it on purpose, I'm fucking tired."

Bob Simon (00:21:03):
He's been traveling all day, give him a break.

Mauro Fiore (00:21:05):
Oh, yeah. That was when we were eating dinner at Nobu in Ibiza. We had traveled like 18 fucking hours then we go to dinner. You never want to go to dinner the same night you get to some European country, right?

Bob Simon (00:21:16):
Yes you do. Bet you do.

Mauro Fiore (00:21:17):
Not me, man. So I was at the table like this. Just like...

Robert May (00:21:21):
It was worse than that.

Mauro Fiore (00:21:22):
Bob was propping me up like weekend at Bernie's.

Robert May (00:21:24):
Correct.

Cameron May (00:21:24):
It was an amazing content...

Mauro Fiore (00:21:26):
She was so upset.

Cameron May (00:21:29):
You're so funny.

Mauro Fiore (00:21:30):
What have you done? It's like, man, I need some of that Spanish Red Bull fast.

Bob Simon (00:21:35):
He was drinking Red Bull this entire time. He's actually drinking Red Bull.

Garrett May (00:21:38):
No effect?

Bob Simon (00:21:39):
I was sleeping while drinking the Red Bull.

Robert May (00:21:41):
Powers through everything.

Bob Simon (00:21:42):
I've taken road trips with this guy. We drove to Italy and it took us eight hours to get back one time because of massive traffic and he's supposed to be my wing man. Copilot.

Garrett May (00:21:49):
Yeah. Good luck.

Bob Simon (00:21:50):
We're at a wedding all night the night before.

Robert May (00:21:52):
What if he was a pilot?

Bob Simon (00:21:53):
If he was a pilot? I feel like the airlines would be paying out a lot of money [inaudible 00:21:57].

Mauro Fiore (00:21:56):
I did a, in a two-day period, me and Bob drove through like eight European countries... Well. He likes to drive thank God.

Bob Simon (00:22:05):
Like a true freak.

Cameron May (00:22:05):
So Bob drove?

Mauro Fiore (00:22:08):
He drove and I just...

Robert May (00:22:08):
You are a secret control guy.

Bob Simon (00:22:09):
That's no secret.

Robert May (00:22:10):
Okay.

Bob Simon (00:22:11):
All right. But this is the Bushmills 21-

Mauro Fiore (00:22:12):
In a good way.

Bob Simon (00:22:13):
So thank you. This is Pavel Sterin who's a lawyer here. Good friend of mine gifted me this bottle. I've not opened it yet.

Mauro Fiore (00:22:20):
Pablo, who?

Robert May (00:22:20):
This is exciting.

Bob Simon (00:22:21):
You know Pavel Paul Sterin? Pavel, he's in the valley. He's awesome, dude.

Mauro Fiore (00:22:25):
Excellent.

Cameron May (00:22:26):
Please?

Bob Simon (00:22:29):
Everybody knows, not much of a scotch whiskey guy. I'm more of a-

Cameron May (00:22:31):
Neither am I, but-

Bob Simon (00:22:32):
... [Inaudible 00:22:32] bourbon. Did you get a pour?

Robert May (00:22:36):
No.

Mauro Fiore (00:22:36):
Dude, you're still... Man, if you're going to come-

Bob Simon (00:22:36):
You're the oldest brother but you're 45, he gets a little...

Garrett May (00:22:38):
He's 45.

Mauro Fiore (00:22:40):
Rob, there's a rule on this show. You can come on and say, "I don't drink," and then you don't drink. But if you come on as an alleged drinker, then you're drinking.

Bob Simon (00:22:49):
How long have you been drinking by the way? How long?

Cameron May (00:22:49):
Let's pretend we're in Ibiza.

Bob Simon (00:22:49):
Wait, it's been 15 years?

Garrett May (00:22:53):
Way more than that. 20 years?

Robert May (00:22:55):
We spent time together. You know how it works. I've seen you... I have partied with my beautiful wife, Monica, your beautiful wife who showed up after dropping you off at a hotel because you were asleep.

Mauro Fiore (00:23:10):
Just tired, man.

Robert May (00:23:11):
On the floor in a van, he was out cold.

Cameron May (00:23:13):
In the floor in a van?

Robert May (00:23:15):
... His wife was like, "Oh, just go..." This is a great story. So me and Monica are ready to rock.

Mauro Fiore (00:23:20):
You guys are at Pacha.

Robert May (00:23:21):
We're at Pacha.

Mauro Fiore (00:23:21):
Pacha in Ibiza, which is fucking [inaudible 00:23:23].

Bob Simon (00:23:23):
I'm taking an expert deposition back in the hotel.

Robert May (00:23:25):
He's making money-

Bob Simon (00:23:26):
After drinking all day.

Robert May (00:23:28):
Bob's making money.

Mauro Fiore (00:23:31):
I was sleeping in a van.

Robert May (00:23:32):
You were asleep in a van. I think he-

Cameron May (00:23:34):
Down by the river.

Robert May (00:23:34):
Down by the river and then your wife in a moment of incredible generosity's like, "I'm going to Take him back to the room and I'll just stay with him." 48 minutes later, she shows up from a taxi cab ride, 20 minute taxi cab ride ready To rock and said, "He's asleep. He's fine. He won't know this happened in the morning." So we partied till 4:00 in the morning-

Mauro Fiore (00:24:00):
She came back at 5:00, I was like, "Where were you?" She's like, "Oh, don't worry, go back to sleep."

Robert May (00:24:03):
It was incredible.

Mauro Fiore (00:24:06):
By the way. They charged me for that table at that place. So if they charged you, they got us twice, but I saw it on my Amex. I haven't talked to you about this just yet.

Robert May (00:24:16):
I feel like I owe everybody a bunch of [inaudible 00:24:18].

Garrett May (00:24:17):
Over under one shirt, how many shirts was Rob wearing?

Bob Simon (00:24:21):
That night?

Garrett May (00:24:22):
Yeah

Bob Simon (00:24:23):
Oh, minus one because the buttons were off.

Mauro Fiore (00:24:25):
Other places we went, they were forcing him to put his clothes back on but this guy likes to throw his shirt off to show off-

Cameron May (00:24:30):
Something you can't unsee.

Mauro Fiore (00:24:30):
I mean if you had a chest like that, wouldn't you want to show it off?

Robert May (00:24:32):
I don't like to show it off. I like to dance and it's hot in Ibiza in the summer and you guys know that.

Cameron May (00:24:37):
You're insulting the word dance.

Bob Simon (00:24:38):
Well, we'll drink our Bushmills 21. Rob is going to nurse his-

Mauro Fiore (00:24:41):
Cheers.

Bob Simon (00:24:41):
Whiskey's so good, man.

Garrett May (00:24:44):
What's the point of all the sit-ups if you're going to wear a shirt?

Cameron May (00:24:47):
Yeah.

Garrett May (00:24:47):
Am I right?

Bob Simon (00:24:48):
To sit down. Shut up.

Robert May (00:24:49):
That's a true brother support. The nicest brother.

Mauro Fiore (00:24:53):
One family went to a dance show-

Cameron May (00:24:54):
It's not though if you call that dancing.

Robert May (00:24:54):
That says everything.

Garrett May (00:24:54):
This is good.

Bob Simon (00:24:54):
This is good, there's a-

Garrett May (00:25:00):
The nose on this is like all maple syrup.

Cameron May (00:25:01):
You taste the end of it, it's not that [inaudible 00:25:02].

Garrett May (00:25:01):
No, it's [inaudible 00:25:04].

Mauro Fiore (00:25:04):
In our European travels with Rob and his wife and me and Bob and my wife-

Robert May (00:25:07):
My wife loves Mauro so much that [inaudible 00:25:10]

Mauro Fiore (00:25:10):
... Rob one time danced so much at, we went to see a dance show and he danced so much that they actually came over and gave us these backstage passes because the dancers wanted to meet us after the show because he was dancing like he was part of the show-

Bob Simon (00:25:25):
Now they all follow him on Instagram.

Robert May (00:25:26):
... So they invited us to party with him after because he's a rock star, the guy was dancing, it's crazy.

Garrett May (00:25:33):
And they had to send him a W9 because now [inaudible 00:25:37] the club.

Robert May (00:25:37):
Well to be fair, I got to get the dance off I was-

Cameron May (00:25:39):
So we call the strippers in America?

Bob Simon (00:25:41):
Well, I actually was pretending I was his security detail at the end. We were in this private, like getting him to the bathroom, tell people to stay away. It was really funny.

Garrett May (00:25:48):
Stay away please.

Mauro Fiore (00:25:52):
This is so different than bourbon, right? Bushmills is so different than bourbon. It's so crazy. People-

Bob Simon (00:25:55):
You haven't had Bushmills yet.

Mauro Fiore (00:25:56):
... People who don't drink bourbon-

Bob Simon (00:25:57):
You're nursing your Dram.

Robert May (00:25:57):
No, this is Bushmills.

Bob Simon (00:25:57):
No, it's not.

Mauro Fiore (00:26:00):
It's just crazy different.

Bob Simon (00:26:01):
Oh, yeah. How did you get that?

Robert May (00:26:01):
You poured it.

Bob Simon (00:26:04):
Oh. Whoops.

Cameron May (00:26:05):
You crazy bastard.

Garrett May (00:26:06):
This is delicious though.

Bob Simon (00:26:08):
This is good.

Cameron May (00:26:08):
Yeah. It's good.

Mauro Fiore (00:26:09):
Let me ask you a question.

Cameron May (00:26:10):
I'm not a scotch guy.

Mauro Fiore (00:26:12):
I have three brothers and I don't get along with all three of them, man. It's just not good. How do you guys work together? How's it work?

Robert May (00:26:20):
I can honestly say there's not-

Cameron May (00:26:22):
The personalities are so different.

Robert May (00:26:24):
You just cut me off.

Garrett May (00:26:25):
Really are.

Cameron May (00:26:26):
I was just getting to the point sooner.

Garrett May (00:26:28):
And I think

Bob Simon (00:26:31):
Cam's the impatient one. Next?

Robert May (00:26:32):
Yes.

Garrett May (00:26:33):
No, I feel very impatient a lot of times.

Bob Simon (00:26:36):
Impatient.

Garrett May (00:26:37):
Impatient.

Bob Simon (00:26:37):
Impatient.

Garrett May (00:26:38):
Not in patient. Like at a-

Robert May (00:26:40):
The hospital.

Garrett May (00:26:41):
In the hospital. I would say-

Bob Simon (00:26:42):
Like a psychiatric hold.

Garrett May (00:26:43):
I think the secret sauce to the three of us is that we each have our lanes and there's an amalgamation or a meeting point between those three lanes.

Bob Simon (00:26:55):
Sometimes they merge.

Robert May (00:26:56):
We compliment each other really well.

Garrett May (00:26:57):
We have different skill sets.

Bob Simon (00:26:59):
It's the same like my brothers and I, we're two brother suit at our firm. We do the same thing. We all compliment each other in different areas. We don't step on toes.

Garrett May (00:27:05):
Yeah, if we were three of the same guy. I don't think it would work. But we have three very distinct individuals and we each have different skillsets-

Bob Simon (00:27:12):
But do you think you were forced in that skillset because you structured your firm that way or just think that's the way you work?

Robert May (00:27:17):
It's a really good question.

Garrett May (00:27:18):
I think it's a little bit of both. I think there's some-

Robert May (00:27:21):
I think we're just so different. I mean there's five kids in our family. I'm the oldest, youngest, classic middle child. He's like peacemaker. No, he's conflict avoidant, but a great litigator. I love when he gets angry because I always go like, "Whoah, oh."

Bob Simon (00:27:38):
That's real.

Robert May (00:27:39):
"Somebody did something bad."

Garrett May (00:27:40):
No, no, no. You hold a bit... I always tell people you can always get more crazy. You can't get less crazy. So let the crazy build until people know you're enraged and then they know for real. So it's like hold a little back.

Robert May (00:27:56):
I think we, I mean there's not a day that goes by that I sometimes I will be walking from one place to another and just sort of try to take a minute to look around, be grateful, whatever. And I'll think I cannot believe I get to work with you guys. I can't believe we get to work together-

Bob Simon (00:28:16):
You guys are you physically in the same office or one day a week, five days a week-

Garrett May (00:28:18):
Me and Cameron are in the same office.

Robert May (00:28:20):
Present day-

Cameron May (00:28:21):
I'm in there like three days a week these days.

Garrett May (00:28:23):
Yeah, kind of in the same office. I'm old school. I like to go to the office every day. I like the routine of it-

Cameron May (00:28:29):
I like bopping in at 8:00 AM staying till 11:00, 12:00 and going home and working from home the rest of the day. Just do all my printing, print off all my demands and go to UPS and head home.

Robert May (00:28:41):
And I like to call these guys and tell them about something cool and interesting. I found that I want to share with them and then I love how they're like-

Bob Simon (00:28:48):
Are you guys talking on the phone or virtually? How do you guys communicate during the day?

Cameron May (00:28:53):
Phone.

Robert May (00:28:53):
Speakerphone.

Garrett May (00:28:54):
Phones-

Bob Simon (00:28:55):
What?

Garrett May (00:28:55):
Slack. Text messages.

Bob Simon (00:28:57):
We slack, text, WhatsApp.

Robert May (00:28:59):
No, no. I like to call them.

Bob Simon (00:29:00):
You call? You're a fucking weirdo. That's 45. That's a cutoff. I'm 43. I don't call anybody.

Robert May (00:29:06):
That's classic young guy bullshit. I call every time.

Mauro Fiore (00:29:08):
Rob. I'm the same way. I call Bob and I know it bothers him. Fuck, I'll call him. I'm 49, dude. I call people.

Robert May (00:29:17):
That's how I will call people.

Bob Simon (00:29:17):
By the way, we have to plan his 50th. This guy's going to be 50. Great location.

Garrett May (00:29:21):
Oh my God, you're only 50?

Bob Simon (00:29:22):
With only motorcycles here at the Bike Shed?[inaudible 00:29:24].

Robert May (00:29:23):
This is what we're doing for your birthday. I can't wait.

Garrett May (00:29:30):
You don't look a day over 72.

Mauro Fiore (00:29:32):
Yeah, I know. I mean it's just that. You know what they call it? It's called clean living.

Garrett May (00:29:36):
Clean living, baby.

Mauro Fiore (00:29:36):
It's clean living.

Bob Simon (00:29:36):
He is vegan.

Robert May (00:29:39):
You have a great face, buddy.

Cameron May (00:29:39):
You're a vegan?

Garrett May (00:29:39):
No, you're a beautiful man. I was teasing.

Robert May (00:29:41):
Oh, yeah. [Inaudible 00:29:43].

Mauro Fiore (00:29:42):
You all know I eat fish. I don't eat meat, thats-

Garrett May (00:29:45):
Big boys got to stick together. I'm on your team. Team big boy.

Mauro Fiore (00:29:49):
But I will say that I sent Bob this. I sent Bob funny shit I see on the internet. I sent him one last night. This is so true, right? The one I sent you last night, I reposted and he's like, "I'm going on vacation. So my wife has to buy 19 outfits for a week and I'm going to take two pairs of swimming trunk and three I've had since 2017." Because this fucking guy. I've traveled with him. I think they're from these shirts, his shirts aren't from 2017, they from like 2012. [inaudible 00:30:16] he brings.

Bob Simon (00:30:16):
Oh yeah, I put it all in the backpack.

Mauro Fiore (00:30:17):
Those are the new ones. Those are the new ones.

Garrett May (00:30:19):
That's the way to roll.

Robert May (00:30:20):
Those are the new ones.

Garrett May (00:30:21):
Under pack.

Robert May (00:30:22):
I like to dress like Bob's wife.

Garrett May (00:30:24):
Whoa.

Cameron May (00:30:27):
That could go, "So what?"

Garrett May (00:30:28):
I think we could stop tape right there.

Bob Simon (00:30:30):
Yeah. And scene.

Cameron May (00:30:31):
Cut.

Mauro Fiore (00:30:33):
Bob, I think I have an idea-

Garrett May (00:30:34):
You'll incredible in a skirt.

Mauro Fiore (00:30:38):
You'll look marvelous.

Garrett May (00:30:38):
If I've said it once, I've said it a hundred times. Rob in a skirt is a great look.

Bob Simon (00:30:42):
My wife went to Beyonce on Monday and I mean they had to wear her silver because it was her birthday too.

Garrett May (00:30:47):
Of course.

Bob Simon (00:30:48):
Robbie would look great in them.

Robert May (00:30:49):
I would've, well...

Bob Simon (00:30:50):
Metallic silver, bikini top-

Robert May (00:30:51):
I saw the video.

Garrett May (00:30:53):
Rob looks better in sequins than this guy.

Mauro Fiore (00:30:55):
You know Bob I was going to save the story for maybe another show, but I mean I was thrown out of the Taylor Swift show. I went to Taylor Swift and I got thrown out-

Bob Simon (00:31:06):
A couple weeks ago?

Mauro Fiore (00:31:06):
Yeah, a couple weeks ago.

Bob Simon (00:31:06):
Was it like a Megan's Law thing or...

Mauro Fiore (00:31:09):
I mean I just thought it's a big show, everyone's excited to go, I'm going to go with my wife and her friends. So we started pre-gaming at three o'clock and I'm not going to see Metallica. I'm fucked up doing shots like if I was going to a Metallica concert. By the time we got there I was blind drunk, and so all of us were, and then we're surrounded by 14-year-old girls and I'm belligerent into show, just belligerent drunk. And there's no line for drinks because these people are handing out friendship's bracelets and shit. They're not drinking booze-

Cameron May (00:31:39):
Yeah, they're 12 years old.

Mauro Fiore (00:31:41):
... So I'm like, I can go get a drink like two drinks per song. I mean between the dancing and shit and the crying. I mean, I can drink-

Garrett May (00:31:49):
No, the merch line-

Bob Simon (00:31:49):
The crying?

Robert May (00:31:51):
I'm actually, I wanted to go to that show.

Mauro Fiore (00:31:53):
The dancing and crying I'm drinking two fucking cocktails per show-

Garrett May (00:31:55):
Nb, my wife took my girls, the merch line was three miles long.

Mauro Fiore (00:31:58):
... So apparently some mean girls decided to say, "This fucking guy is a degenerate," and they came over, they surrounded me. They're like, you're trespassing." I'm like, "Trespassing? I haven't even fucking heard Shake it off yet, what are you talking about?" That's the best.

Garrett May (00:32:13):
"Until you play Bad Blood, I'm not going anywhere."

Mauro Fiore (00:32:16):
They literally threw me out, man. I was like, "This is bullshit."

Bob Simon (00:32:20):
Were you proud or embarrassed?

Mauro Fiore (00:32:21):
I actually was proud to be thrown... I was probably the only person in seven nights to get tossed out for being drunk.

Garrett May (00:32:26):
Yeah, but you paid two grand for those tickets.

Mauro Fiore (00:32:29):
Oh, I wish I had paid two grand. But anyways, it's actually one of the highlights of my [inaudible 00:32:36].

Garrett May (00:32:35):
There's no way you-

Robert May (00:32:36):
That's a highlight [inaudible 00:32:37].

Garrett May (00:32:37):
... You can't keep that-

Bob Simon (00:32:38):
Oh no.

Robert May (00:32:38):
It's a highlight.

Garrett May (00:32:39):
That's good. Cut.

Bob Simon (00:32:40):
By the way, we were supposed to talk about golf. You guys just went on a fucking rift. You guys go on amazing golf trips. This is why we're drinking the Irish, the 21-year-old Irish-

Mauro Fiore (00:32:49):
Tell them about the trip that I'm going on.

Bob Simon (00:32:50):
But no, first-

Robert May (00:32:51):
We are going on, thank you very much.

Garrett May (00:32:57):
Scotland.

Robert May (00:32:57):
We're going to Scotland. 10 days, 12 rounds.

Garrett May (00:33:00):
The place of our...

Mauro Fiore (00:33:01):
No, 12 days, 10 rounds.

Garrett May (00:33:01):
12 days, 10 rounds, We've got some Scottish ancestors.

Bob Simon (00:33:08):
I think we all do.

Robert May (00:33:09):
That has nothing to do-

Bob Simon (00:33:10):
By the way, so this is Charles Lou's Scottish. This is where the Bike Shed is.

Garrett May (00:33:13):
The Scottish people are the most beautiful people in the world. Not physically the most beautiful people. They're the kindest... They are beautiful people, but they're the kindest, gentlest, most accommodating people I've ever met.

Bob Simon (00:33:27):
I've never been, I always want to go. Mostly Irish too.

Garrett May (00:33:29):
I love the Scots.

Bob Simon (00:33:30):
So what is May? What is your lineage?

Garrett May (00:33:32):
English.

Robert May (00:33:33):
English. It's straight, so warm.

Bob Simon (00:33:35):
Yeah, you got a lot Charles' and Edwards'.

Garrett May (00:33:37):
It's the milk toast of Las Vegas.

Cameron May (00:33:40):
It's the milk toast.

Robert May (00:33:41):
Robert May.

Bob Simon (00:33:42):
But it's easy.

Garrett May (00:33:43):
It is. I will say it was easy for [inaudible 00:33:47] as a kid. Three letters. Very easy.

Robert May (00:33:51):
That's so true. It's actually-

Garrett May (00:33:52):
So great.

Bob Simon (00:33:53):
We think about this when we named our kids-

Robert May (00:33:55):
Wait, Simon is a great last name.

Bob Simon (00:33:56):
Very easy.

Garrett May (00:33:56):
Because it's five letters?

Bob Simon (00:33:58):
It's so easy.

Garrett May (00:33:58):
No one's like, "How do you spell that?"

Bob Simon (00:33:59):
No, a lot times times people were like, "Is Robert Simmons there?" I'm like, this wasn't even close. They always think it's like-

Garrett May (00:34:05):
There's no S.

Bob Simon (00:34:06):
... No. This happens all the... Simons? This is an easy name.

Robert May (00:34:10):
Simon. Great name.

Garrett May (00:34:11):
Simon Says, how hard is that?

Bob Simon (00:34:13):
Apparently hard.

Mauro Fiore (00:34:14):
Like Richard Simmons?

Bob Simon (00:34:15):
Yes. You know I saw Richard Simmons one time. He used to have a workout place next to Mike Alders office in Beverley Hills.

Mauro Fiore (00:34:20):
It's called Slimmons.

Bob Simon (00:34:20):
Slimmons. Anyone [inaudible 00:34:21].

Garrett May (00:34:20):
You do have some Richard Simmons energy.

Bob Simon (00:34:26):
Hmm?

Garrett May (00:34:26):
You do some Richard Simmons energy.

Bob Simon (00:34:28):
We did the 80 shake it to the whatever it was called, we had that, it was a tape that was like a tape back in the [inaudible 00:34:37]. We used to shake it to the eighties.

Garrett May (00:34:38):
Do you remember doing those? We used to have... I remember doing-

Robert May (00:34:39):
No, Sweating to the Oldies.

Bob Simon (00:34:40):
Sweating to the Oldies. Thank you. [Inaudible 00:34:43]

Garrett May (00:34:42):
Nailed it. That was it. I remember doing-

Bob Simon (00:34:44):
Mauro still sweats [inaudible 00:34:53].

Mauro Fiore (00:34:52):
I sweat till 2015.

Robert May (00:34:52):
He sweats to anything. Apparently, Mauro sweats to air conditioning.

Bob Simon (00:34:53):
These were the jokes that he made at the Taylor Swift Concent.

Mauro Fiore (00:34:54):
I feel like I'm-

Garrett May (00:34:56):
That's why you got kicked out, bro.

Mauro Fiore (00:34:57):
... When I come and do these shows, I feel like I'm a chicken nugget. I'm under the fucking lights and I'm hot as the snowstorm. Imagine these fucking lights up.

Bob Simon (00:35:09):
I think this bottle's kicking in finally, guys. Mauro, we're actually at like 56 degrees, cool.

Mauro Fiore (00:35:15):
I'm delirious over this fucking lights.

Garrett May (00:35:16):
I was surprised by how good that was.

Bob Simon (00:35:19):
I am too. Because I don't usually like that. But the note at the end was-

Robert May (00:35:21):
Can I have a taste of that rye again?

Bob Simon (00:35:23):
You want the blind rye?

Robert May (00:35:24):
Yeah.

Garrett May (00:35:26):
It had a, the spice on the-

Mauro Fiore (00:35:27):
By blind he means that you might go blind.

Garrett May (00:35:28):
The spice at the front was so good.

Cameron May (00:35:31):
It was good.

Bob Simon (00:35:31):
We have one more whiskey we got to get through.

Robert May (00:35:32):
I know.

Garrett May (00:35:33):
I can't believe how good that Bushmills was.

Cameron May (00:35:35):
I like that. That was really good.

Garrett May (00:35:37):
I was surprised by how sweet the nose were.

Bob Simon (00:35:39):
There was a smooth, the Lagavulin 16, which I don't like in that smoky shit-

Robert May (00:35:43):
I love when you just out of nowhere do a [inaudible 00:35:47].

Bob Simon (00:35:47):
Because it wasn't that [inaudible 00:35:50].

Cameron May (00:35:50):
That's where you'll lose me.

Bob Simon (00:35:51):
But this is an Irish single malt.

Garrett May (00:35:53):
So my wife and I went to-

Bob Simon (00:35:55):
Rare apparently.

Garrett May (00:35:55):
... My wife and I went to Scotland last year and we went to, there's a... Lagavulin was made on this island called Islay, so we flew into Glasgow. We took a tiny, tiny little plane-

Mauro Fiore (00:36:06):
It's Islay, right?

Garrett May (00:36:06):
Islay, how am I saying?

Robert May (00:36:07):
Do tell.

Mauro Fiore (00:36:08):
Islay.

Garrett May (00:36:09):
We'll fix that in post. And then so we took a tiny little plane out to this island and-

Robert May (00:36:14):
Oh, I do fancy trips. Sorry.

Garrett May (00:36:18):
... And we did a tasting of Lagavulin and so we've done tastings in Kentucky. We've been in Kentucky and they pour you tiny, you're just barely tasting it. They were full pours.

Robert May (00:36:28):
Jesus.

Garrett May (00:36:28):
Ounce and a half. Six of them. My wife-

Robert May (00:36:31):
Bob, just put [inaudible 00:36:32].

Bob Simon (00:36:31):
Wait, did you guys all... Were you at the Bourbon of Proof Tour?

Cameron May (00:36:35):
I was. Yeah.

Bob Simon (00:36:35):
We saw you at dinner at the night-

Cameron May (00:36:36):
I almost got kicked out-

Garrett May (00:36:36):
Cameron got kicked out.

Cameron May (00:36:36):
... I almost got kicked out of the first distillery.

Robert May (00:36:38):
You did get kicked out of the first distillery.

Bob Simon (00:36:42):
I didn't get kicked out.

Garrett May (00:36:44):
Very near.

Bob Simon (00:36:44):
Which tour were you guys on?

Robert May (00:36:45):
The bus driver was mad at you.

Cameron May (00:36:47):
It was from the night before.

Bob Simon (00:36:50):
Because you guys, I remember, because we were on the last buses to leave and this guy comes out late. I'm like, "Your fucking bus left, dude." Then you have to catch your bus.

Robert May (00:36:57):
I can't even get into that conversation. We can't get-

Mauro Fiore (00:37:02):
Did I ever tell you that during Bourbon of Proof, remember we were staying in downtown? It was downtown and right across the street was the Kentucky Fried Chicken Arena.

Garrett May (00:37:09):
Oh, goodness.

Mauro Fiore (00:37:11):
Which is like this Staples Center?

Garrett May (00:37:12):
And you were disappointed they didn't have the chicken?

Robert May (00:37:14):
No. Well... Yes.

Bob Simon (00:37:17):
He couldn't find the arena.

Mauro Fiore (00:37:18):
But I was super drunk. Can you imagine?

Garrett May (00:37:21):
Naturally.

Robert May (00:37:22):
False.

Mauro Fiore (00:37:23):
And Billy Eilish was playing.

Robert May (00:37:26):
Across the street.

Garrett May (00:37:26):
Yes she was.

Mauro Fiore (00:37:27):
And I fucking went across the street all fucked up, excuse my language, and I paid one of the security guards, like 60 bucks. He let me in. He let me in. So I went into the Billy Eilish show-

Bob Simon (00:37:39):
This is how he got kicked out of the Taylor Swift concert. I see a pattern.

Mauro Fiore (00:37:42):
This is my way in. And I go in there and it was-

Robert May (00:37:43):
You got a real MO dude.

Mauro Fiore (00:37:45):
... And I was like this Billy Eilish show in Kentucky. You'd figure whatever. She was like the Messiah showed up because I don't think they get much going on in Kentucky. So I watched five or six songs and I was like, "This is so weird." She was wearing some kind of a smock or some shit. It's like-

Bob Simon (00:38:02):
What is a smock?

Mauro Fiore (00:38:03):
I mean, I don't [inaudible 00:38:05]. She was wearing like a potato-

Garrett May (00:38:07):
Giant T-shirt.

Mauro Fiore (00:38:08):
She was wearing a potato sack-

Robert May (00:38:09):
T-shirt blanket.

Mauro Fiore (00:38:09):
I was like, "What is wrong with her? Why is she wearing a potato sack?"

Cameron May (00:38:13):
Seven year old's sleeping outfit.

Mauro Fiore (00:38:14):
Yeah. And it was just the weirdest shit.

Garrett May (00:38:16):
This episode is going to be 12 minutes long because all of this is going to [inaudible 00:38:20].

Mauro Fiore (00:38:20):
I didn't get kicked out. I ejected myself from that show. It's just too weird.

Robert May (00:38:24):
But that was a great trip by the way.

Bob Simon (00:38:27):
Yeah, so the Bourbon of Proof-

Cameron May (00:38:27):
Bourbon of Proof. That was so funny.

Garrett May (00:38:29):
That was a fantastic trip.

Bob Simon (00:38:30):
We actually, Theresa and I, we did that tour in March. We thought of that idea in December. We're like, "Fuck it, let's do it." We set up that whole thing.

Robert May (00:38:38):
That was incredible.

Bob Simon (00:38:39):
It was crazy.

Garrett May (00:38:40):
That was incredible.

Bob Simon (00:38:41):
Dude, it was like, when we went to that distillery at Buffalo Trace at the end of the after party and it started snowing-

Cameron May (00:38:44):
That was beautiful, right?

Robert May (00:38:45):
That was so magical. I got to meet-

Bob Simon (00:38:47):
That was post-production, by the way, Theresa just added the snow as an after effect.

Cameron May (00:38:51):
She's so talented.

Robert May (00:38:53):
I think that's where we got to really meet Theresa when were like, star of the bourbon show.

Bob Simon (00:38:58):
Oh my God.

Garrett May (00:38:59):
I know this isn't Theresa's show, but Theresa is one of those people where you meet her-

Robert May (00:39:02):
This should be called the Theresa's show, right?

Bob Simon (00:39:03):
We should actually rename it The Theresa Show.

Garrett May (00:39:04):
Or you meet her and you immediately fall-

Bob Simon (00:39:06):
Mother Theresa.

Garrett May (00:39:06):
... In love with her.

Robert May (00:39:07):
Right.

Garrett May (00:39:07):
It's impossible.

Mauro Fiore (00:39:08):
When I first met Theresa, she was like, man, I can tell she's like, "I know this guy's a weirdo, but he's friends with Bob so I got to tolerate him."

Cameron May (00:39:18):
I remember in the lobby-

Garrett May (00:39:19):
She has that personality that you just fall in love with her every time.

Robert May (00:39:22):
Yeah, she's like one in a billion. Honestly.

Cameron May (00:39:25):
She was in the lobby-

Mauro Fiore (00:39:26):
Incredible friend, incredible talent.

Cameron May (00:39:27):
... And there was a karaoke machine.

Garrett May (00:39:29):
Oh yes.

Robert May (00:39:30):
Kicking someone's ass?

Cameron May (00:39:31):
"Oh there's a karaoke" and she was ready to just go down.

Garrett May (00:39:36):
Get after it.

Cameron May (00:39:37):
Just absolutely get after it. She's an absolute boss.

Robert May (00:39:41):
Let me clarify. Somebody was trying to eject the party and she said-

Cameron May (00:39:46):
No.

Bob Simon (00:39:46):
Oh, I heard that story.

Robert May (00:39:47):
"No-

Cameron May (00:39:48):
Yeah, it was great.

Mauro Fiore (00:39:49):
... We're not leaving."

Bob Simon (00:39:51):
I was asleep. I heard it the next morning because I was asleep.

Cameron May (00:39:59):
It was 8:42 so.

Bob Simon (00:39:59):
I was asleep.

Robert May (00:39:59):
Of course I have a tiger track suit.

Bob Simon (00:39:59):
To be fair, it was 6:42 back where I was, PM, [inaudible 00:40:04].

Robert May (00:40:03):
No, can we agree-

Mauro Fiore (00:40:04):
You know that Rob has a tiger tracksuit?

Bob Simon (00:40:06):
Yeah.

Mauro Fiore (00:40:06):
I sent him one time.

Cameron May (00:40:07):
What?

Bob Simon (00:40:07):
We wore it when we were in Austria.

Robert May (00:40:11):
We wore it together in Munich.

Garrett May (00:40:12):
I guess mine got lost in the mail?

Bob Simon (00:40:14):
By the way, post-production. Insert photo of us wearing tiger suits in Munich in the snow.

Mauro Fiore (00:40:19):
I remembered that, we were in Munich. That's when I ditched you guys and went to eat Chinese food in Munich and it was so fucking good.

Robert May (00:40:25):
What about when I ditched these guys-

Garrett May (00:40:26):
Chinese food is good in Munich?

Robert May (00:40:27):
... And lost my credit card and I was smoking in some random hotel room.

Garrett May (00:40:31):
I'm just hungry 12 minutes later.

Bob Simon (00:40:32):
Me too.

Garrett May (00:40:33):
What is that?

Bob Simon (00:40:33):
Same thing with sushi, I could eat sushi all day and be like, "I'm starving. I'm so hungry."

Garrett May (00:40:38):
My wife, who's the most wonderful human being I've ever met-

Bob Simon (00:40:41):
17 years by the way. Jesus Christ.

Garrett May (00:40:42):
17 years of intolerable-

Bob Simon (00:40:44):
You guys are almost an adult marriage.

Garrett May (00:40:46):
Yeah, we're almost an adult.

Cameron May (00:40:47):
She refuses anything.

Robert May (00:40:49):
She's so open to new food ideas.

Garrett May (00:40:53):
No, she's not. No, she's not.

Robert May (00:40:55):
It's just like an open-

Bob Simon (00:40:57):
She eats like my middle child. Nothing.

Garrett May (00:40:58):
Sometimes she'll soup for dinner. Did your wife ever, come home and there's soup?

Robert May (00:41:02):
Yeah.

Garrett May (00:41:02):
And I'm thrilled. I love soup. The problem is I'm hungry 12 minutes afterwards.

Bob Simon (00:41:06):
Wait, wait, wait. Settle this. We'll take a vote.

Robert May (00:41:08):
Wait, you think you guys get soup.

Bob Simon (00:41:11):
I'm not talking a stew. Is soup a meal? Cam, start with you. Is soup a meal?

Robert May (00:41:18):
Let me know when I can answer.

Cameron May (00:41:19):
Negative.

Bob Simon (00:41:20):
Okay, Mauro.

Cameron May (00:41:20):
Stew is a meal.

Mauro Fiore (00:41:20):
Like chicken noodle or like navy bean?

Bob Simon (00:41:24):
Not a stew, it's a chick n noddle.

Garrett May (00:41:24):
Pick your poison.

Bob Simon (00:41:24):
Navy bean would be more of a stew.

Mauro Fiore (00:41:25):
Chicken noodle is not a meal though. It's an appetizer.

Bob Simon (00:41:29):
Rob.

Robert May (00:41:31):
My Hungarian wife who-

Bob Simon (00:41:33):
But that's a stew.

Mauro Fiore (00:41:35):
What's that Hungarian chick called?

Bob Simon (00:41:41):
Like a goulash? That's different.

Cameron May (00:41:41):
It's not soup.

Robert May (00:41:41):
We get soup so much, dude.

Bob Simon (00:41:43):
Is that why you're 162?

Garrett May (00:41:45):
That's why his jaw muscles have atrophied. It's just all day long-

Mauro Fiore (00:41:48):
He's 1 62 with his clothes on.

Bob Simon (00:41:51):
Yeah.

Robert May (00:41:51):
Anyways, we're eating a lot of soup so I'm going to say yes, shout out Monica, this relationship will last forever. If I said soup wasn't a meal, eject. Her, eject-

Bob Simon (00:42:03):
I tell my wife if it's not a meal, I can't eat it.

Robert May (00:42:04):
Of course.

Garrett May (00:42:05):
No, I've come home and said, she's like, "I made a soup." I said, "Great. What are we having for dinner?"

Bob Simon (00:42:10):
Yeah. Same.

Garrett May (00:42:10):
And then I get screamed at.

Mauro Fiore (00:42:11):
It's like you don't go to a Chinese place and you eat the miso and that's the meal, right?

Bob Simon (00:42:17):
Chunky beef. I eat a lot of chunky beef as a kid-

Robert May (00:42:19):
Oh, yeah.

Bob Simon (00:42:19):
That's a stew.

Robert May (00:42:19):
That's a stew.

Mauro Fiore (00:42:21):
Or Ginny Moore. You had to have Ditty Moore.

Robert May (00:42:23):
Dinty.

Mauro Fiore (00:42:23):
Dinty Moore.

Bob Simon (00:42:24):
Campbell's, under the can. Sometimes I'd eat it cold because I'm so hungry.

Mauro Fiore (00:42:29):
Did you ever eat the Ditty Moore?

Bob Simon (00:42:32):
It's still called Dinty.

Mauro Fiore (00:42:33):
Whatever, the Dinty Moore stew in the can?

Bob Simon (00:42:36):
Mauro, hand me that last bottle because we got to...

Mauro Fiore (00:42:37):
It actually tasted a little bit like-

Bob Simon (00:42:39):
It's the last one.

Mauro Fiore (00:42:40):
... It smells like dog food, but it was okay if you heat it up.

Robert May (00:42:42):
I was two seconds where I'm going my dog eats better [inaudible 00:42:44].

Bob Simon (00:42:43):
Look guys, I'm pumped for this because I want to learn about... Who wants, can you...

Garrett May (00:42:46):
No. Rob, Rob, Rob.

Bob Simon (00:42:47):
Rob, Rob, can you tell us about this?

Mauro Fiore (00:42:48):
Tell us about this, Rob.

Robert May (00:42:49):
Yeah, happy to do it.

Bob Simon (00:42:51):
Straight out of San Louis.

Robert May (00:42:53):
So straight from San Louis, Obispo.

Bob Simon (00:42:55):
Slow.

Robert May (00:42:56):
Shout out branding.

Mauro Fiore (00:43:02):
Rob, I would love to try a case with Rob. Rob, you try a case?

Robert May (00:43:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Mauro Fiore (00:43:04):
I got to try cases.

Robert May (00:43:06):
We should just do one.

Mauro Fiore (00:43:07):
I got to try a case with this guy. He'd be so much fun in the courtroom.

Bob Simon (00:43:10):
He'd be like the bashful guy, Bourbon of Proof, "I'm sorry, I didn't mean to ask that question."

Robert May (00:43:14):
Oh, it's...

Mauro Fiore (00:43:14):
He's doing it right now.

Garrett May (00:43:15):
Oh gosh, Rub.

Mauro Fiore (00:43:16):
I'm so sorry. I'm so ashamed but-

Cameron May (00:43:17):
[Foreign language 00:43:18].

Robert May (00:43:17):
I'm so ashamed.

Garrett May (00:43:18):
[Foreign language 00:43:20].

Robert May (00:43:18):
[Inaudible 00:43:20].

Bob Simon (00:43:22):
Do we just go and do a show tune?

Robert May (00:43:24):
Yeah, well, I did the show tunes for you.

Bob Simon (00:43:25):
I love show tunes by the way.

Cameron May (00:43:26):
Of course. Me too.

Robert May (00:43:28):
Single barrel bourbon 90 proof so just barely acceptable on the proof flies for you.

Cameron May (00:43:33):
That's a breakfast bourbon, right?

Bob Simon (00:43:35):
It is. That's what you... My dad would be ashamed.

Garrett May (00:43:38):
Pour that on your pancakes.

Robert May (00:43:39):
Poppy said, "I'll use it as syrup but I won't like it." That

Bob Simon (00:43:42):
"I won't like it."

Robert May (00:43:43):
Yeah, "I won't like it."

Bob Simon (00:43:44):
"I don't like it." She says.

Robert May (00:43:45):
"I don't like it." My son who's living with a foreign exchange student-

Bob Simon (00:43:49):
Oh, this is so funny. Have you seen his son talk? It's incredible.

Garrett May (00:43:53):
Rubi?

Robert May (00:43:54):
He's Hungarian.

Bob Simon (00:43:55):
Rubi.

Garrett May (00:43:55):
Rubi.

Robert May (00:43:56):
Rubi. So Hungarian is his first language. So when you talk to him, it's like when he was a little guy, he dressed like Tony Soprano. When he talked it was like-

Garrett May (00:44:05):
All track suits.

Robert May (00:44:06):
... It's all track suits and it's like-

Bob Simon (00:44:08):
How old is he by the way?

Robert May (00:44:09):
He's four now.

Bob Simon (00:44:10):
He's four. Now.

Robert May (00:44:10):
He's four now but-

Mauro Fiore (00:44:11):
I know guys like this from the casino.

Robert May (00:44:14):
He looks like a dude from the casino.

Garrett May (00:44:15):
He should be playing baccarat.

Robert May (00:44:17):
He drops F bombs like he's in a casino, but he's always like, "No, no time soup." What are you talking about, dude, you've lived in America your whole life. Why do you talk like that?

Garrett May (00:44:29):
Do you not know verbs?

Robert May (00:44:30):
He's not a verb-

Garrett May (00:44:30):
Throw a verb in there, buddy.

Bob Simon (00:44:31):
Verbs kind of are not needed.

Robert May (00:44:33):
Chocolate milk.

Garrett May (00:44:34):
Chocolate milk.

Bob Simon (00:44:35):
Choc milk. [inaudible 00:44:36]. Choco milk. It's fine.

Robert May (00:44:37):
Actually what he says is Chockey Titsy.

Garrett May (00:44:42):
Chockey Titsy? Is that chocolate milk in-

Mauro Fiore (00:44:43):
Chocolate titsy?

Cameron May (00:44:52):
What's the ice cream?

Garrett May (00:44:53):
Fudgey. I want fudgey.

Robert May (00:44:53):
Fudgey.

Mauro Fiore (00:44:54):
Can I get some chocolate titsy?

Bob Simon (00:44:55):
Cut. All right, start over. Okay, just show this to the camera. We're going to do the pour.

Robert May (00:44:57):
All right, so we got SLO Stills Bourbon. That's a distillery in San Luis Obispo. 90 proof. We got our own barrel. We're going to be giving it out to anybody that wants some.

Garrett May (00:45:11):
Friends and colleagues.

Robert May (00:45:12):
DM me if you want some.

Bob Simon (00:45:14):
And you're @Rob May?

Cameron May (00:45:17):
Robert May.

Robert May (00:45:17):
Robert S. May.

Bob Simon (00:45:18):
Or Robertsmay?

Robert May (00:45:19):
Roberts...

Garrett May (00:45:19):
Roberts.

Robert May (00:45:20):
S is for Steven. Shout out, Dad.

Bob Simon (00:45:26):
This smells very good.

Garrett May (00:45:28):
I haven't tried this yet. I haven't tried this yet.

Mauro Fiore (00:45:31):
I did some research on our Scottish golf trip and we can pay, I'm actually going to buy a criminal defense insurance because...

Bob Simon (00:45:42):
What?

Cameron May (00:45:43):
It's smart.

Mauro Fiore (00:45:44):
It's like a thousand bucks for the whole month we're there. They'll bail us out, everything, because I know-

Garrett May (00:45:49):
We're not going for a month.

Bob Simon (00:45:49):
This is the biggest scam I've ever heard.

Mauro Fiore (00:45:51):
I know it's going to get fucking rough man. With these guys, no wives-

Bob Simon (00:45:55):
Do you think the Scots are going to arrest you? You'd be like, you fight, right?

Mauro Fiore (00:45:58):
... I'm getting a criminal defense insurance.

Bob Simon (00:46:00):
Nah. This is...

Mauro Fiore (00:46:03):
I think somebody's going to end up in the joint for sure.

Cameron May (00:46:05):
A hundred percent.

Mauro Fiore (00:46:06):
Someone's going to-

Bob Simon (00:46:07):
This smells very good.

Garrett May (00:46:09):
It really does. It smells so clean. It almost has a...

Robert May (00:46:12):
Baseball players, we got a whole thing going on.

Garrett May (00:46:14):
I feel like Japanese whiskey kind...

Bob Simon (00:46:16):
I smell like more of a raisin. Like the California raisins.

Garrett May (00:46:19):
I love that.

Robert May (00:46:21):
How big was that?

Cameron May (00:46:22):
Yeah, it's good.

Bob Simon (00:46:23):
Very big. Oh my God, this is amazing.

Cameron May (00:46:24):
Yeah, it's really good.

Bob Simon (00:46:26):
I mean it's 90 proof so it's like drinking water.

Cameron May (00:46:28):
Of course, of course.

Robert May (00:46:29):
Yeah, we apologize.

Bob Simon (00:46:31):
This is fantastic.

Cameron May (00:46:31):
Yeah, it's really good.

Mauro Fiore (00:46:33):
There's no age statement on it, right? So it's probably more of a three, four year-

Bob Simon (00:46:37):
Well, now, they're going to make you start putting the age on the whiskeyy-

Mauro Fiore (00:46:40):
It's like a three, four year but it tastes like a little, it's pretty-

Robert May (00:46:43):
It's a little bit young.

Mauro Fiore (00:46:44):
Little young, little young. But it's good.

Bob Simon (00:46:45):
This is very good.

Robert May (00:46:46):
Got some snap on the back. Great nose. Nose is great. Little finish.

Bob Simon (00:46:50):
Speaking of snap on the back, I see these hats right here. You guys partnered with Melin and did a run, which by the way is my favorite brand. Thank you. Brian McDonald. I mean-

Garrett May (00:46:57):
Don't try to get free hats by shouting out Melin-

Bob Simon (00:47:00):
I saw it. I have at least a dozen.

Robert May (00:47:04):
Wait. So Bob is the ultimate [inaudible 00:47:08] guy.

Garrett May (00:47:09):
He really is. Yeah, I'm too-

Robert May (00:47:09):
So yes, we do have hats. Melin was so, they were so gracious to make these for us. All right, let's be honest. Theresa helped arrange all these things because she's amazing.

Mauro Fiore (00:47:22):
Give the white one to Bob.

Bob Simon (00:47:23):
That's my favorite one.

Mauro Fiore (00:47:24):
Because I can't wear white, dude. But in 30 seconds it'll be brown. Dude, I'm like pigpen.

Bob Simon (00:47:28):
This is the best.

Robert May (00:47:30):
I'm going to undo it so you can size it for yourself.

Cameron May (00:47:30):
We got hats for you too.

Robert May (00:47:32):
So Mauro-

Mauro Fiore (00:47:33):
I need black. I need black.

Cameron May (00:47:35):
Yeah, the black's definitely my favorite too.

Bob Simon (00:47:38):
I wear whites almost every day.

Mauro Fiore (00:47:39):
Black is-

Bob Simon (00:47:40):
It's like when I'm in the amusement park with my kids. I have a bright orange Melin [inaudible 00:47:44].

Robert May (00:47:43):
So they can find you.

Mauro Fiore (00:47:45):
Because black is always my favorite.

Bob Simon (00:47:46):
I have a small hat, so look at that. That's kind of embarrassing.

Robert May (00:47:49):
That is pretty small.

Garrett May (00:47:50):
Do you really?

Robert May (00:47:50):
Look and it's still [inaudible 00:47:51].

Garrett May (00:47:50):
You and Cameron.

Robert May (00:47:51):
You have a great super small head?

Bob Simon (00:47:53):
See, look, mine's all the way over here.

Cameron May (00:47:54):
No, not that small.

Bob Simon (00:47:56):
Try that. See if we're the same Melin-

Garrett May (00:47:59):
I'm a seven and three quarter.

Bob Simon (00:48:00):
See we're the same Melin.

Cameron May (00:48:00):
Me too.

Bob Simon (00:48:00):
I just got it. I had no idea the name Melin because you put in your head. Did it fit?

Cameron May (00:48:05):
Not even close.

Garrett May (00:48:05):
Not even close. But you have a small head.

Bob Simon (00:48:07):
Yeah, dude. When they fitted us for baseball hats while I was playing, it was embarrassing.

Mauro Fiore (00:48:11):
When we played for the WAPs? Guapos?

Bob Simon (00:48:13):
Dude, I was like a six.

Mauro Fiore (00:48:15):
Hey, let's drink to the Guapos to another title for the Guapos.

Bob Simon (00:48:17):
They won.

Mauro Fiore (00:48:19):
Me and Bob's old baseball team won the championship again. I think it was just the-

Bob Simon (00:48:22):
We didn't play this year. You might've, but I'm retired.

Mauro Fiore (00:48:25):
The fact that me and Bob don't play any more, they're winning titles.

Robert May (00:48:27):
I won the Wiffle Ball-

Cameron May (00:48:29):
Is this fast pitch?

Robert May (00:48:30):
... This weekend,

Bob Simon (00:48:31):
Dude, wiffle ball is out of fucking control.

Robert May (00:48:33):
It's so hard.

Bob Simon (00:48:33):
It's so hard. When guys pitch it just goes like this. There's no way to-

Mauro Fiore (00:48:36):
Well, if you know how to throw that ball-

Bob Simon (00:48:38):
They have people that know how to throw these wiffle balls.

Garrett May (00:48:39):
I love how Rob's claiming he won when he had a Allstar pitcher on his team, MLB-

Bob Simon (00:48:47):
Was it Ted Lily?

Robert May (00:48:47):
Technically-

Bob Simon (00:48:48):
That's fucked up. And he's a lefty?

Garrett May (00:48:50):
Lefty.

Robert May (00:48:51):
Well, he went no hit and yeah.

Bob Simon (00:48:53):
He went no hit in wiffle ball?

Robert May (00:48:54):
Yeah.

Bob Simon (00:48:54):
This is a fantastic story.

Robert May (00:48:57):
He was 87 on the gun.

Garrett May (00:48:59):
He's still got low pop to him.

Bob Simon (00:49:01):
I'm sure

Robert May (00:49:03):
Real athletes, they're wired different in a way that's like when they turn it on, you go, "Oh yeah, that's right." Much better than, yeah.

Mauro Fiore (00:49:14):
Have you ever seen that video of Deion Sanders where they ask him about Bo Jackson? Have you ever seen that?

Bob Simon (00:49:18):
No.

Robert May (00:49:19):
No. Wait, wait, wait. Before you answer, before you finish, Bo Jackson, Deion Sanders, best, you can call it two sport or best athlete. It's the easiest question in the world.

Garrett May (00:49:30):
Bo.

Cameron May (00:49:31):
Bo. Bo.

Mauro Fiore (00:49:32):
Deion, man.

Garrett May (00:49:33):
If Bo doesn't have the hip injuryo-

Bob Simon (00:49:34):
Bo Jackson before he was [inaudible 00:49:35].

Robert May (00:49:34):
Bo Jackson is the greatest athlete-

Bob Simon (00:49:38):
This never happened. Ron Gant did it too, remember, he played Bo. But it doesn't happen anymore. But I remember watching, because remember he had to delay. If they made the playoffs, he'd delay going to the fucking NFL. The NFL. You know preseason. These guys would just roll up.

Robert May (00:49:51):
Bo Jackson didn't play in the preseason. He has the highest yards for carry average in the history of the NFL.

Bob Simon (00:49:57):
Ever. The best video. Remember Bo Jackson, it was Monday Night Football, and he runs for that.

Robert May (00:50:01):
The buzz.

Bob Simon (00:50:02):
It goes straight through the front. Yeah. The tunnel. That's one of the biggest travesties ever in sports when that guy got hurt. All right?

Robert May (00:50:08):
All right. Tell you bad story-

Mauro Fiore (00:50:09):
No, there's this, a very serious interview of Deion Sanders. They're telling him, they ask him, "Was Bo Jackson the greatest athlete, the greatest, most athletic person you've ever been around?" He's like, "No." "Well, who was it?" He goes, "Oh, my cousin Junebug, he was a crackhead, but he would steal shit and I could never catch him." He goes, "But besides my cousin, who was a crackhead, Bo Jackson was second."

Cameron May (00:50:36):
Junebug. Junebug.

Bob Simon (00:50:37):
That's Neon Deion, man.

Garrett May (00:50:39):
Do you remember that? Deion Sander Claus commercial? That was the greatest commercial in my-

Bob Simon (00:50:44):
Which one was it?

Garrett May (00:50:44):
Deion Sander Claus. Where he was Santa Claus-

Bob Simon (00:50:46):
I don't remember this.

Garrett May (00:50:46):
He got a Christmas [inaudible 00:50:48].

Robert May (00:50:48):
I definitely remember.

Garrett May (00:50:49):
Incredible commercial.

Mauro Fiore (00:50:50):
Hey, well you know what? The Buffalos have been on the road and won, had a 21 point dog on the road in the first game-

Cameron May (00:50:54):
TCU. Incredible.

Mauro Fiore (00:50:55):
... God bless them, man.

Bob Simon (00:50:56):
So I remember when we used to play beer pong in high school. This was high school. We would be like, we'd go, "Prime time," when we would do ridiculous shots for Neon Deion.

Cameron May (00:51:05):
Kobe.

Bob Simon (00:51:05):
Throw it off the fucking wall. No, Kobe wasn't even around, dude. We're the same year-

Garrett May (00:51:09):
That was the later version.

Robert May (00:51:11):
Don't start this. He's a LeBron guy.

Bob Simon (00:51:13):
No, look, I love basketball-

Robert May (00:51:16):
Not over Kobe Bryant, over Michael.

Bob Simon (00:51:17):
No, but it's a generational thing, man. If they're together-

Robert May (00:51:21):
They are the same generation.

Bob Simon (00:51:22):
They're not.

Robert May (00:51:23):
I'm old enough to wear-

Bob Simon (00:51:24):
No, but when they play-

Garrett May (00:51:24):
No, they're not.

Bob Simon (00:51:26):
They're not. You can't compare generational players to the other generations.

Garrett May (00:51:29):
Maybe [inaudible 00:51:30] in the nineties.

Robert May (00:51:30):
A little bit you can.

Mauro Fiore (00:51:31):
Well, I can tell you, I am older than you guys-

Bob Simon (00:51:34):
Here we go.

Mauro Fiore (00:51:34):
... I remember going to the forum and seeing the Lakers with Kareem and Magic play against-

Bob Simon (00:51:40):
He's just watching that show right now.

Mauro Fiore (00:51:42):
No.

Bob Simon (00:51:42):
That's on HBO.

Mauro Fiore (00:51:43):
And I always tell people, there's a couple of things I've seen in my life-

Robert May (00:51:46):
Someone's watching it.

Mauro Fiore (00:51:48):
... Okay. One of the things you don't forget, right? Was Larry Bird playing in person, Bird had the weirdest moves. It was like he was slow, but he wasn't, and his feet seemed like they slid on the, it was weird. And then Bird would just do this fall away and it would just swish. It was like weird shit you've never seen in your life. You never forget it.

Robert May (00:52:07):
I watched Larry Bird play and it seemed like he had, I don't know, nothing going on and he looked up, you looked at the top of the, and you go, 38 points.

Mauro Fiore (00:52:14):
Yeah. Bird was like from another planet. And then Kobe, when he got hot was from another planet because I had Lakers season tickets for 20 something years. Kobe when he got hot was from another planet. But Bird was weird. Gretzky was strange. The way he passed. I went to so many Kings games that's how would Gretzky scored like four, but he passed, just insane.

Bob Simon (00:52:36):
So our firm is partners with the Kings now-

Robert May (00:52:38):
I was going to say, you're a Kings guy and you're a true hockey guy.

Bob Simon (00:52:40):
I'm a true hockey guy. So we did have this new graphic coming out where it's like going from the beginning of the Kings until now. Who has the most penalty minutes ever-

Robert May (00:52:48):
McSorley?

Bob Simon (00:52:48):
Yes. Yes. For the win. But it shows, over the, but he's still, they're never going to break his record. He lives by the beach with us. So I'm trying to get McSorley to come when we do this graphic to show who's the most... He's the enforcer, dude,

Robert May (00:53:03):
You live in hockey hood.

Bob Simon (00:53:05):
Yeah. We're hockey hood, man.

Robert May (00:53:06):
That's a secret place where all hockey players-

Garrett May (00:53:07):
Wait, so you're a partner [inaudible 00:53:09].

Robert May (00:53:09):
Including David Wright. Let's see if you can name David Wright.

Garrett May (00:53:11):
... But you're a Penguins guy.

Bob Simon (00:53:12):
Big penguins guy.

Garrett May (00:53:13):
So where do your loyalties lay these days?

Bob Simon (00:53:16):
Well, I can't do it for their endorsement, but I love all Pittsburgh sports. They always come first. I'm wearing these-

Cameron May (00:53:21):
I love those shoes.

Bob Simon (00:53:22):
Look at these.

Garrett May (00:53:22):
You know our 49ers are playing your-

Robert May (00:53:24):
That's a great shoe and-

Garrett May (00:53:26):
Your Steelers are playing our 49ers this weekend.

Bob Simon (00:53:28):
Well, by the time this airs, the Steelers will beat them by 12.

Cameron May (00:53:31):
Oh my Gosg,

Robert May (00:53:33):
Where is it? I'll put money up on this?

Bob Simon (00:53:35):
Yeah. Was it alive? [inaudible 00:53:37].

Mauro Fiore (00:53:37):
Rob, let me ask you a question, Rob. I'm born and raised in California.

Bob Simon (00:53:39):
Correct.

Mauro Fiore (00:53:42):
Where in California does it split between Southern Cal and Northern?

Robert May (00:53:50):
We are. We're the split.

Mauro Fiore (00:53:50):
Where does it split? If you go to Bakersfield, Santa Barbara, they still are Dodger fans. How far up you got to go?

Robert May (00:53:54):
We're the split.

Garrett May (00:53:56):
Anything north of San Luis Obispo is-

Mauro Fiore (00:53:58):
San Luis Obispo and above you're Northern Calif... You're like-

Robert May (00:54:00):
No, no, no. San Luis Obispo is the dividing line. Meaning if you... Garrett's buddies were half mostly Dodger fans, right?

Garrett May (00:54:07):
Yeah. My best friend was a Dodger fan.

Robert May (00:54:08):
All my friends were-

Mauro Fiore (00:54:10):
But it's still only like, what, four hours from here and it's four hours to San Francisco, right?

Garrett May (00:54:14):
Correct.

Robert May (00:54:14):
It's right in the middle.

Garrett May (00:54:15):
Three hours to LA and four hours to San Francisco. Three and a half I would say.

Mauro Fiore (00:54:17):
So you mean I understand being a Dodger fan from there, but most of them are Northern Cal fans.

Garrett May (00:54:26):
I swear it's 50/50.

Mauro Fiore (00:54:26):
Interesting. Bob, you're from Pennsylvania, right? I mean where does the Evils fans and the Steelers fans-

Robert May (00:54:32):
I don't know anything about this.

Bob Simon (00:54:33):
I'll tell you right now so-

Robert May (00:54:34):
Where does that...

Bob Simon (00:54:35):
... I do things by how long it takes you to drive there. We're five hours from Philly. So it's not, I mean it's a big state-

Mauro Fiore (00:54:42):
Because you got the Phillies, you got the Pirates, you got the Steelers, you got the Eagles.

Bob Simon (00:54:45):
Did you know the Steelers and Eagles combined during World War II and we're the Steagles for a year?

Garrett May (00:54:52):
Yes.

Bob Simon (00:54:52):
Not a lot of people know that. So they're Steagles for a year. But the dividing line is this. So it's a big state. So Pittsburgh's on the very, very, very southwest of the state-

Mauro Fiore (00:55:00):
Of the Ohio River.

Bob Simon (00:55:02):
... We're always 45 minutes to Ohio or West Virginia. Philly's all the way over by West Virginia. Sorry, by New Jersey and New York and these things. So it's five hours separate. My dad used to have to drive to Philly in Pittsburgh and back. That was his route. Would take him long, I mean it would take him 10 hours for UPS. So the dividing line is this, if you're a Steelers fan, you are about five miles outside of Philly all the way to Pittsburgh. That's it.

Cameron May (00:55:29):
Really?

Robert May (00:55:30):
That's what I like to hear.

Bob Simon (00:55:31):
Yeah.

Mauro Fiore (00:55:31):
All the way down, huh?

Bob Simon (00:55:33):
Fuck Philly

Robert May (00:55:37):
By the way, Jalen Hurts.

Bob Simon (00:55:39):
Look, it's hard to hate Philly now because he's really-

Robert May (00:55:41):
It's possible with Hurts.

Bob Simon (00:55:42):
So I took the deposition of Will Smith. He was a witness in one of our cases. I represented his body double.

Robert May (00:55:48):
I'd like to hear this.

Bob Simon (00:55:48):
Oh, this is really, I have the transcript and it's, I don't know if it was confidential or not, but the first question I asked him and it was like we had to go through his age and all this other shit to take his depo. So I asked the first question, they swear him in. I was like, "Okay, so Mr. Smith, why did you trick Jeffrey to make him think he won the lottery?" He just starts laughing. I was like, "Okay, so while we have you uncensored, can you finally admit that Pittsburgh sports are better than Philly?" And he's like, "Oh, man." So the first 10 pages of this are just being really-

Cameron May (00:56:15):
It was nonsense?

Bob Simon (00:56:16):
... The defense lawyer, she's objecting to every question. "Objection to form." I'm like, "Form to what? You could answer. Go ahead." He was like, "I just finished filming Focus in Pittsburgh." They did all these movies there. It was really fun.

Robert May (00:56:27):
Focus is an underrated movie.

Bob Simon (00:56:28):
Fantastic.

Garrett May (00:56:29):
Super underrated. Yeah.

Bob Simon (00:56:30):
All right. So as we get to the nitty-gritty here. Now we're talking in Pittsburgh sports, which is, by the way, city of Champions, it was pretty good with no budget. We're going to ask-

Robert May (00:56:39):
Sid Bream.

Bob Simon (00:56:41):
I had Sid Bream, he signed my autograph as a kid, 1992. I was 12. He did the John 316 signed it. Then they traded him with the Braves and the motherfucker scored the winning run in '94.

Garrett May (00:56:51):
The 92 Pirates are incredible [inaudible 00:56:54].

Bob Simon (00:56:54):
You know what I did as a 14-year-old child? I punched it like Fletch did Tommy Lasorda and Fletch broke it and threw it out the fucking window. Goodbye, Sid Bream.

Mauro Fiore (00:57:04):
Bob-

Bob Simon (00:57:05):
Went for the Braves.

Mauro Fiore (00:57:05):
... What was Fletcher's attorney's name? In the movie Fletch. What was his lawyer's name?

Bob Simon (00:57:10):
Wow, I don't know.

Mauro Fiore (00:57:11):
Irwin T. Pants, Esquire.

Garrett May (00:57:17):
Chevy Chase [inaudible 00:57:18].

Bob Simon (00:57:17):
By the way, Jon Hamm just did a new Fletch like a year-

Mauro Fiore (00:57:23):
Confess Fletch is really funny.

Bob Simon (00:57:24):
It's pretty good.

Mauro Fiore (00:57:25):
It got panned by the critics and shit but-

Bob Simon (00:57:27):
Because they wanted Chevy Chase.

Mauro Fiore (00:57:28):
But it was really funny. Confess Fletch is funny. You should watch it.

Robert May (00:57:30):
Quite good.

Bob Simon (00:57:31):
So we have the firm, The May Firm, 2012 started with three guys. One guy living over sorority house, one guy, 850 bucks in his checking account-

Robert May (00:57:39):
One guy living in an apartment, went from a-

Bob Simon (00:57:40):
House downsized to fund the firm into apartment.

Garrett May (00:57:43):
To fund the firm. Yep. And I'll never-

Bob Simon (00:57:45):
What's the future?

Garrett May (00:57:46):
I don't know if I've said this publicly or even privately.

Bob Simon (00:57:48):
Oh God, these guys are going to cry. Here we go.

Robert May (00:57:50):
I'm going to cry.

Garrett May (00:57:51):
I'll never be able to express my gratitude to Rob for sacrificing that to build the firm. A lot of us gave a lot. We've all given out everything to build the firm. But Rob lived in a beautiful house. He sold that house to fund the firm. I had a seven-month pregnant wife, Cameron's a college student living in a garage. I'll never be able to express my gratitude to Rob for giving so much so that we could build something better than us.

Bob Simon (00:58:24):
Let's do one more pour here.

Garrett May (00:58:25):
Because the three of us are great. Each one of us is great. We all have our skillsets and whatever. The three of us together are worth more than any of the three of us apart.

Bob Simon (00:58:35):
Wow.

Garrett May (00:58:36):
That's the secret to The May Firm.

Bob Simon (00:58:37):
That's the secret sauce.

Mauro Fiore (00:58:40):
To quote Billy Ray Cyrus, "All gave some and some gave all."

Cameron May (00:58:44):
God bless you.

Bob Simon (00:58:45):
I never thought we'd...

Robert May (00:58:47):
I never thought Billy Ray-

Mauro Fiore (00:58:49):
I'm a big Billy Ray Cyrus-

Robert May (00:58:50):
I love Miley.

Garrett May (00:58:52):
I think I had a bet. Did someone wager that if you could introduce Billy Ray Cyrus to this podcast, you'd win a bet?

Mauro Fiore (00:58:59):
Yes.

Garrett May (00:58:59):
Was that a thing?

Mauro Fiore (00:58:59):
Yes.

Garrett May (00:58:59):
Okay.

Bob Simon (00:59:00):
Oh my God. It was actually, it was Miley, but he got caught in a Taylor Swift concert.

Garrett May (00:59:04):
Pretty close. You get 50% for the-

Bob Simon (00:59:04):
So at the end of this episode, we're going to do one consistent thing. I want to know what is your Bourbon of Proof? What is the one out of all of these whiskeys that spoke to you the most and why? Mauro, pull that one out. Just hold this. By the way, Cam and I both have-

Mauro Fiore (00:59:20):
We drink four there's the-

Bob Simon (00:59:21):
... Old Broncos, I have a 71. What's yours?

Cameron May (00:59:22):
70.

Bob Simon (00:59:22):
70, bro. We're going to race those.

Cameron May (00:59:25):
[Inaudible 00:59:26] green. What's yours?

Bob Simon (00:59:27):
Metal gray. Like gun metal gray.

Cameron May (00:59:28):
Love it.

Bob Simon (00:59:28):
Rivets.

Mauro Fiore (00:59:29):
Unfortunately for Bob, I've known him 20 years, that [inaudible 00:59:32] has been in the shop for 15 of it.

Bob Simon (00:59:36):
But I bought it for 10 as a shell. And that's really-

Garrett May (00:59:37):
Oh, yeah, that's a good deal.

Mauro Fiore (00:59:38):
I've been in the shop for 15.

Cameron May (00:59:38):
I've probably put four miles on that thing the last two years.

Garrett May (00:59:42):
I think I've driven that Bronco more than you.

Cameron May (00:59:44):
There's no question.

Bob Simon (00:59:46):
We're talking about rhe car.

Garrett May (00:59:46):
Yeah.

Cameron May (00:59:46):
You know what my Bourbon of Proof? Dram, always a favorite. I love the Bushmills.

Robert May (00:59:51):
Really?

Cameron May (00:59:52):
Yeah, because that was sneaky delicious and I am not a scotch guy at all. And that was wonderful.

Bob Simon (00:59:59):
Rob?

Robert May (01:00:00):
Kazinski.

Bob Simon (01:00:01):
Really?

Robert May (01:00:01):
I'm a unabomber.

Bob Simon (01:00:04):
Unabomber rye?

Robert May (01:00:04):
I love it.

Bob Simon (01:00:05):
Dude, I don't know who sent this, but this might kill us. Might not.

Garrett May (01:00:09):
God bless.

Robert May (01:00:09):
Well, either way...

Bob Simon (01:00:11):
We had a good life.

Robert May (01:00:15):
We had a great day. I mean, it's good life.

Bob Simon (01:00:15):
Look, if you had to die... Wait, we shot a whiskey show. We drank some weird shit we're dead. We died here. Yeah.

Garrett May (01:00:22):
I'll go with The May Firm blend.

Bob Simon (01:00:25):
Very good. Sneaky good.

Garrett May (01:00:27):
It was very clean. Very, very good. I think it would be a great whiskey sour. I think it'd be a great-

Robert May (01:00:33):
Shout out loyalty. Thanks, Garrett.

Garrett May (01:00:35):
Yep. It would be a great, my drink of choice, which is a sidecar-

Bob Simon (01:00:39):
One more we'll go blind.

Garrett May (01:00:39):
... It would be a great sidecar.

Bob Simon (01:00:41):
We're going to go out and go blind. A sidecar? We don't mix whiskeys here. What the fuck you want [inaudible 01:00:45]

Robert May (01:00:45):
Oh, you've never hung out with Garrett.

Mauro Fiore (01:00:46):
You never had an old-fashioned?

Robert May (01:00:49):
Half his drinks are purple.

Mauro Fiore (01:00:49):
You never had an old-fashioned?

Robert May (01:00:49):
A quarter of our [inaudible 01:00:50].

Garrett May (01:00:49):
That is so unfair.

Cameron May (01:00:49):
Garrett, what was that Yokovic drink you were ordering?

Robert May (01:00:54):
Wait, did you say it's unfair?

Garrett May (01:00:54):
No, no, no. Let me finish. Let me finish.

Robert May (01:00:54):
When drinks show up, I usually think-

Garrett May (01:00:54):
A third of them are purple. Half of them are purple.

Robert May (01:01:02):
Who is it on a date... Keep going.

Cameron May (01:01:05):
70% chance of having elderflower in it.

Garrett May (01:01:08):
Cut it.

Bob Simon (01:01:09):
Actually, I love elder flower. There's a liquer, the elder flower one that you could do a little drop, oh, bro. [inaudible 01:01:16] with elder flower? Okay.

Mauro Fiore (01:01:16):
Garrett, Do you also listen to Belle and Sebastian?

Bob Simon (01:01:20):
Oh, that was an old show. Belle and Sebastian.

Mauro Fiore (01:01:22):
Do you listen to Belle and Sebastian?

Bob Simon (01:01:23):
With the big white dog and the kid, they get lost?

Garrett May (01:01:25):
Sure.

Mauro Fiore (01:01:25):
I think you're their kind. Their demographic.

Robert May (01:01:28):
No one is less-

Cameron May (01:01:28):
Cheers, Brother.

Robert May (01:01:30):
Garrett read 27 Nicholas Sparks books. That's what you need to know.

Garrett May (01:01:35):
I've read more Nicholas Spark books than anyone you know-

Cameron May (01:01:37):
It's weird that I actually know what that is.

Robert May (01:01:38):
Yeah, by the way that was your book.

Garrett May (01:01:39):
I have no interest in appearing masculine. That is my secret.

Bob Simon (01:01:43):
Garrett, take us out with-

Mauro Fiore (01:01:45):
It's just a dead rye.

Cameron May (01:01:45):
Garett, take us out.

Bob Simon (01:01:46):
This is a dead rye. We're going out with a dead rye.

Mauro Fiore (01:01:47):
Dead rye is good. I agree with you. Dead rye is good.

Bob Simon (01:01:49):
If we go blind, we go together. Garrett, lead us out for this end of this Bourbon of Proof.

Garrett May (01:01:54):
To friends, to family, to working hard for our clients and never stop hitting it hard.

Bob Simon (01:02:02):
Yeah. Cool.

Garrett May (01:02:03):
Cheers.

Cameron May (01:02:04):
I have to ask, go us in the Ryder Cup.

Mauro Fiore (01:02:06):
Fuck [inaudible 01:02:07].

Robert May (01:02:06):
Yeah. Fuck [inaudible 01:02:08].